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EG Pulse or DigiStix for acoustic drums
Would EG Pulse be a good choice for acoustic drums / rock / pop inside Cubasis? Are there plenty of built in midi patterns as I am hopeless at creating my own beats? There appears to be a fills button - does this trigger an appropriate fill automatically?
I like the look of DigiStix, but it doesn’t seem to come with any built in patterns.
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I don't think either is what you want. Soft Drummer would be great, but I've never used Cubasis. SD ss IAA not AUv3 so you'd wan't to check that works OK.
It has a lovely sound and a bunch of patterns plus fills and variable jamming options. There's also Rock Drummer for more rocky stuff but there's something very adaptable and flexible about SD. Both apps (plus other drum genres) are by Lumbeats.
Yes, I’ve tried the free version of Lumbeats Rock Drummer, which sounds great standalone. Unfortunately, it doesn’t show up at all in Cubasis. In GarageBand there’s an icon for it, but it won’t load.
The best acoustic drums on iOS are in GarageBand IMO. Then export into CB3
If you want, some days ago I've opened a similar thread. See: How do you create your drum tracks?
The best way to have Lumbeat's stuff into Cubasis is using their export feature. Export the MIDI and/or the audio tracks and import them in CB. At least that's how I do it!
It doesn't get talked about much anymore since it's not AUv3, but Drum Session sounds like what you're looking for. It's still getting updates.
https://apps.apple.com/app/id1030319584
For acoustic / rock / pop you I would second Drum Session as well but my first choice would be DrumPerfect Pro.
Btw, softdrummer and funkdrummer are much more realistic to me ears than Rock Drummer.
GarageBand's drummers are very good and can respond to what you play. Bringing a rhythm track into GB and exporting the resulting drums will give you good results though it isn't convenient.
DrumPerfect Pro can yield the best quality results...and will require an investment in time to make use of it. It's libraries include patterns.
Drum Session includes a huge library of patterns and has velocity sensitive pads. IMO, its built-in samples have a hair too much reverb baked in.
All of the options I've mentioned are standalone apps though DrumPerfect has an AU that can play drum parts you have constructed in the standalone.
There are some good sounding AUv3 that include good-sounding acoustic kits (BeatHawk) but don't have the pattern libraries you seek.
Yup
Drum session and DrumPerfect Pro let you create drum sections. DrumPerfect Pro has all the articulation you’ll need, once you’ve mastered it. For just winging it or a quick improv it’s hard to top Lumbeats, though.
Agreed.
I’d forgotten that I had Drum Session, but deleted it a year ago in frustration. Reinstalled, and using the export function, I can get some decent drums into Cubasis, but that is of limited value. I am having trouble getting it to work properly in IAA. I suspect some of my settings may be wrong.
I agree GB is great for drums, but it’s a real ball ache to import and export between the two DAWs.
What I want is something like Drum Session or Lumbeats as AU. Unfortunately, it seems nothing like that exists!
Lumbeat samples have too much room for me. I only export the Midi song arrangement. This is essential for me. Love Lumbeat. I will feed drum prefect pro with own samples when I find the time and then trigger it with lumbeat. I need more time....
If you can be more specific, I'm sure someone here can help. Regardless of IAA, you should be able to use MIDI out or MIDI export to get something going without too much hassle.
Ok, thank you here goes:
That’s about as far as I’ve got. I have managed to open DS standalone and export audio and midi to CB, but that’s of limited use to me.
To do that, you will need to record the MIDI into Cubasis, which you should be able to do using CoreMIDI. The reason for this is you can send MIDI to an IAA instrument, but you cannot receive it.
EG Pulse doesn’t have velocity layers which I find a must for acoustic drums.
If you have good/above average multilayered acoustic drum samples is good Digistix, but the factory presets are just average. So probably something else. I have both and like Digistix a little better, both are good to great apps, but neither has really good natural drum sounds built in.
cool
how do you drag samples into digistix?
What is CoreMIDI?
In a nutshell, it's Apple's implementation of MIDI in their operating systems. The MIDI input/output system built into iOS and macOS. In other words, you should be able to record the MIDI output of Drum Session into Cubasis using just MIDI -- no IAA involved.
If IAA is not used, how do Drum Session and Cubasis talk to each other?
Just using MIDI input/output. You said you would like to chop up, copy and paste MIDI clips in Cubasis. If you don't want to import/export patterns from Drum Session, then you'll need to record the MIDI into Cubasis.
I'm not trying to tell you how you should work, but I would use Drum Session as an IAA instrument to build my track, then record the MiDI into Cubasis for further editing.
Open Digistix Either in stand alone or as an Auv3 inside a host/DAW, open files app in slide over view, to do this I keep files app at the bottom, then you long press the files app, and drag the app icon over to side over screen to use slide over view.