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Took the Cubasis 3 Plunge

What am I in for lads?

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  • The best Cubasis update ever! @jakoB_haQ has spoken.

  • At worst a bunch of freezes and odd, but infrequent crashes (data always saved). At best, love and a lot of tracks. But that’s just my experience.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    At worst a bunch of freezes and odd, but infrequent crashes (data always saved). At best, love and a lot of tracks. But that’s just my experience.

    I'm excited to try it out. Seems really full featured

  • I've never really delved deep into Cubasis 3 as a production environment, but I love using it as a tool for mastering multiple tracks at once, for recording vocals, etc. :)

  • Bought it last week and i think it's great. Replaced zenbeats as my daw of choice with aum for live jams and drambo for that modular experimental type tracks

  • @muzka said:
    Bought it last week and i think it's great. Replaced zenbeats as my daw of choice with aum for live jams and drambo for that modular experimental type tracks

    I'm mainly a Gadget guy but wanted a linear DAW. It's definitely better than Zenbeats so far, for me personally. The waves plugins are a nice little bonus.

  • Time stretch on samples is decent quality also, plus the freezing to audio of midi is really handy

    Ticks good few boxes for me

  • @muzka said:
    Bought it last week and i think it's great. Replaced zenbeats as my daw of choice with aum for live jams and drambo for that modular experimental type tracks

    Why’d it replace Zenbeats?

  • Same question @KirbyMumbo : Why Cb3 over ZB?

  • edited May 2021

    @Telstar5 said:

    @muzka said:
    Bought it last week and i think it's great. Replaced zenbeats as my daw of choice with aum for live jams and drambo for that modular experimental type tracks

    Why’d it replace Zenbeats?

    Because zenbeats froze and crashed a lot for me when using audio and importing samples. It made it frustrating to use. I loved so much about it but it just didn't feel smooth to use.

    With cubasis my workfkow is faster and I get the sound, feel and idea down quicker. It just feels slicker and more intuitive

    When importing samples I now have folders and file management, zenbeats was a mess and just piled them all in together

    Some auv3s didn't show for me in zenbeats and I tried reinstalling the app but no joy. Also some auv3s would crash for me. None of these issues with cubasis

    I've only had it less than a week and I think as I dig into groups and midi routing I will find more to like.

    Zenbeats felt like it sort of worked but cubasis feels like a pro grade daw on the ipad.

  • @muzka said:

    @Telstar5 said:

    @muzka said:
    Bought it last week and i think it's great. Replaced zenbeats as my daw of choice with aum for live jams and drambo for that modular experimental type tracks

    Why’d it replace Zenbeats?

    Because zenbeats froze and crashed a lot for me when using audio and importing samples. It made it frustrating to use. I loved so much about it but it just didn't feel smooth to use.

    With cubasis my workfkow is faster and I get the sound, feel and idea down quicker. It just feels slicker and more intuitive

    When importing samples I now have folders and file management, zenbeats was a mess and just piled them all in together

    Some auv3s didn't show for me in zenbeats and I tried reinstalling the app but no joy. Also some auv3s would crash for me. None of these issues with cubasis

    I've only had it less than a week and I think as I dig into groups and midi routing I will find more to like.

    Zenbeats felt like it sort of worked but cubasis feels like a pro grade daw on the ipad.

    Up until this update I didn’t see a point in using Cubasis, Zenbeats just seemed superior in every aspect except lack of Audiobus / AUM integration. But after this update I’d say Cubasis is ahead with sidechaining, group tracks, (proper) midi routing... and a far better UI. Still there’s 2 things I can’t give up in Zenbeats, drum sequencer and clip mode.
    I hate doing drums on a piano roll, it looks stupid (sorry).
    Clip mode is so fast and inspiring. And I’m not an ableton guy, hadn’t used Clips until Zenbeats on iOS. It focuses on playing and leaves all the decision making for later, which I find very liberating.
    If we were to compare both in linear daw mode I’d say Cubasis wins. Except for the way Zenbeats treats loops like actual loops instead of copies, which is the way to go.
    In short, for arranging and mixing I’d say Cubasis is currently better while for composition and playing around Zenbeats wins.

    I doubt Cubasis will ever get a Clip mode so my hope is Zenbeats catches up.

  • @tahiche said:

    @muzka said:

    @Telstar5 said:

    @muzka said:
    Bought it last week and i think it's great. Replaced zenbeats as my daw of choice with aum for live jams and drambo for that modular experimental type tracks

    Why’d it replace Zenbeats?

    Because zenbeats froze and crashed a lot for me when using audio and importing samples. It made it frustrating to use. I loved so much about it but it just didn't feel smooth to use.

    With cubasis my workfkow is faster and I get the sound, feel and idea down quicker. It just feels slicker and more intuitive

    When importing samples I now have folders and file management, zenbeats was a mess and just piled them all in together

    Some auv3s didn't show for me in zenbeats and I tried reinstalling the app but no joy. Also some auv3s would crash for me. None of these issues with cubasis

    I've only had it less than a week and I think as I dig into groups and midi routing I will find more to like.

    Zenbeats felt like it sort of worked but cubasis feels like a pro grade daw on the ipad.

    Up until this update I didn’t see a point in using Cubasis, Zenbeats just seemed superior in every aspect except lack of Audiobus / AUM integration. But after this update I’d say Cubasis is ahead with sidechaining, group tracks, (proper) midi routing... and a far better UI. Still there’s 2 things I can’t give up in Zenbeats, drum sequencer and clip mode.
    I hate doing drums on a piano roll, it looks stupid (sorry).
    Clip mode is so fast and inspiring. And I’m not an ableton guy, hadn’t used Clips until Zenbeats on iOS. It focuses on playing and leaves all the decision making for later, which I find very liberating.
    If we were to compare both in linear daw mode I’d say Cubasis wins. Except for the way Zenbeats treats loops like actual loops instead of copies, which is the way to go.
    In short, for arranging and mixing I’d say Cubasis is currently better while for composition and playing around Zenbeats wins.

    I doubt Cubasis will ever get a Clip mode so my hope is Zenbeats catches up.

    Clip mode is what brought me to zenbeats as I've used ableton as my main daw. I really like it but don't miss it as the way I work in cubasis is a create loops and freeze them to audio clips then arrange on the timeline. In zenbeats I would arrange my clips then record into the timeline to mix down and final edit so not a huge difference

    Good thing is both have their strengths and weaknesses and can tick boxes for different people. Great to have these choices 😀

  • @muzka and @tahiche : Thanks for the detailed response

  • ZenBeats doesn't aim to be a DAW (as per Roland)

  • Using Cubasis 2 here occasionally, great for importing some stems and polishing them up. I think the extra stereo width and tape delay made by Steinberg are excellent for the cost ($3.99). Cubasis is a no brainer as a backup DAW at the cost.

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