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AUM : how to effectively get < 20 BPM
Would love to be able to get AUM done to 1 BPM, the current low is 20.
Why?
Cos I want super slow pieces.
Any solutions? Ta
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Use Atom (I think either 1 or 2 will work for this) and utilize the time division functions.
How? I mean I have an AUM session driving midi and synths etc. How can I use Atom to do this? Ta
So, with this method, you’ll need to be driving your synths with Atom. Atom 2 is preferred, but you can still do Tempo divisions (and multipliers!) in Atom 1.
Here’s a basic example using Atom 2’s Tempo tool.
AUM is set to its lowest BPM (20), so in Atom, .50 would be 10 BPM, .25 would be 5, and if my math checks out, .1% tempo equates to 1 BPM.
Edit: correction, evidently my math did not check out! (Thanks @espiegel123 !) .05x is the correct tempo setting to achieve an effective 1 BPM with the host at 20BPM.
So you’re really not getting AUM down to less than 20, but you’re “effectively” getting your sequencers down to those speeds by playing with the tempo modifiers.
Hmm, now that I’m thinking about it, it would be nice to have an extra digit on that tempo tool, where could do more precise divisions. For example, a perfect 1/8th would need to be halfway between .12 and .13 (.125). For a perfect 1/3rd, I guess .33 would be close enough?
edit: might have to hit up @blueveek after all of the other feature request smoke clears.
Still with me?
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If the tempo is 20 BPM, 1 is 1/20th of 20 which is .05x. 2 bpm would be 0.1x (1/10th)
Btw, the Atom numbers are simple multipliers rather than %.
It’s just math. For example, At 80bpm just make each whole note a quarter note.
Yup, you’re right! Evidently my math didn’t check out! lol
So to get “effectively” down to 1 BPM, you’d set the Tempo tool to .05
Right right, it’s a habit from working with money and numbers every day. It’s just how we verbalize things at work. Instead of saying “hey it’s point seven five” or “three quarters” we’d say “75 percent!”.
I started thinking through this question at 1 BPM and I was unable to form complete thoughts. Mozaic has a metronome function that can be driven by AUM and just ignore beats 2-20 or buffer up your incoming midi space the release/relay of those events at
1/20th the rate. Ask on that Mozaic thread and it will be done pretty fast assuming you only care about basic midi events and not MPE or something extra tricky. I created this response at 12k BPM.
Here, I added a couple more instances of Atom 2, each set to a different tempo with the multiplier.
All based on the same 20 bpm session in AUM.
The first part is double time (2x or 200%),
The second is 1x tempo which should be the 20BPM.
Third one is 3X
And the fourth .5X (or 50% speed)
Got almost a version of Fugue Machine working here, excellent.
Right? Only this setup is better all around, and way more capable if we’re talking about multiple instances of Atom 2 versus a single Fugue Machine.
Here’s a few reasons why:
I've been doing slightly similar things with instances of chordjam. Make a pattern you like, duplicate as many times as you like then play with speeds, moving the sequencer forwards / backwards etc, pretty cool!
Did we lose OP?
@NimboStratus
Off making 1 bpm music no doubt. Probably a few measures into a 64 bar piece. Check back in a few days.
Ableton Link has a range of 20-999 bpm.
I'd suggest AUM is just being a good citizen.
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😂 Well yes I was actually composing a new piece!
Thanks for all the suggestions. Will digest and report back. I do have Atom so that might be an option but also a solution could be if @Kymátika updared AUM to allow 1 BPM 😍 but get the point about Ableton.
The funny thing is the piece is driven my fugue machine so will try and port the notes from FM to atom. Fun times. Thanks again
@Edward_Alexander still trying to get my head around Atom2 but do I need 4 instances of it or can I do this with one instance with different tracks?
I believe you used to need 4 but can now do this in 1
No, I’m sorry, I got carried away with my examples above.
For getting a BPM effectively down to 1 BPM, you’d only need one.
To mimic Fugue Machine though, would probably need at least 4 instances because each of FM’s play heads can have different directions and speeds. That, you wouldn’t be able to do in a single Atom instance.
One way to get your fugue machine notes over to atom, you could (as an alternative method) just route your midi from FM to an instance of atom and just record the midi notes into Atom.
In other words, instead of wiring your Fugue Machine to the synth, wire it to Atom 2, then hit the record button in Atom 2. Atom 2 will record the midi. It can also import midi files.
Hope this helps!
Awesome, it does help! Thank you!
Yes I get that. Fugue Machine limits to four playheads in Atom the number is limitless, well almost. Plus they can be triggered on and off manually or by another Atom if you wish.
Exactly! There’s so much you can do with a handful of Atom instances.
Fugue Machine was one of the first sequencers I ever bought on iOS/iPadOS, (I think even before Atom 1) and to this day, it’s still unique in some of its features (like the performance transpose bar on the right hand side).
As far as the piano roll grid itself though, Atom 2 and other sequencers have gone way beyond Fugue Machine’s capabilities in that regard. Of course being an AUv3 app, one could utilize multiple instances of Fugue Machine for even greater flexibility, but even then, the grid is still rather primitive by today’s standards.
I’m thinking about making a shootout video between the two, what do you guys think? “Cage Match - Fugue Machine vs Atom 2” - who wins? (Answer - We do!)
Oh and for the record, (I just had a look) along with AUM and Ableton Live, Drambo Standalone has the 20 BPM low limit as well. I don’t know why, but I’m sure there’s a reason they all stop at 20 BPM.
It could theoretically be due to memory restrictions?
Imagine a 8 bar delay time at 1BPM, it would consume quite a large chunk of RAM
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