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DIY solution - loopback for OAA (Outer App Audio) . Who’s doing it?
Hi,
I just got a Behringer 204HD interface, so far seems like a nice and cheap unit.
The reason I got this one is it’s got 4 outputs plus inserts and very usable monitoring options, in a small format, class compliant and powered via usb c.
What I intend to do, and so far seems to work like expected, is a “cable” emulation of Inter App Audio but for a broader use case.
You connect outputs 3/4 to the physical inputs 1/2 on the interface.
- Record to/from Zenbeats which doesn’t support Audiobus or IAA: I can record the output of AUM into Zenbeats (or the other way around). Whatever goes out into the 3/4 outs will be recorded using inputs 1/2. You can récord Koala or any other IAA app with Zenbeats, or with any other app that doesn’t support IAA. Zenbeats and AUM sync via Ableton Link so you’d get perfect loops in sync.
- Bounce in place: better than freezing, finding the frozen file, blabla. Rearrange a sample, add fx and just bounce to a new track. Send it to 3/4 and record on new track. Nice and simple. Specially useful in tracks where Freeze doesn’t work properly as is often the case with midi generating plugins. Also when Zenbeats export stems fail, which is often.
- Easy to add external pedals and fx via the 2 inserts.
There’s a lot more uses. The dedicated “monitor a/b” button on the 204HD let’s you hear what’s going out via the 3/4.
I think it’s really useful for around 70€. Anyone using this approach?.
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I'm sure it's all cool, mate, but looking at this pic I just can't shake the feeling you're testing fate all over again
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Plugin outs into ins. What could go wrong?.
If I was born 50 years earlier I would have invented dub.
Before mixing in the box became more common
the technique you’re showing here was normal
especially for integrating digital audio into analog studios.
One thing to be careful about is latency.
The round trip of the audio going out and returning will create a delay.
You can adjust for that both in post and in real time.
Here’s a PC desktop program that uses this technique
to calculate the noise floor of an audio interface.
https://audio.rightmark.org/index_new.shtml
and nothing should go wrong except the potential of switching on the phantom power?
and hot plugging the cables.
So;... 😁
That was my first thought too ... latency. It might be worth measuring if for no other reason than to judge if nudging tracks is going to be needed and by how much.
Cool setup though, and you definitely listed some tempting use cases for it.
I’ll watch out for latency and maybe do some tests.
But I don’t see why itd be an issue. If I’m recording a guitar, I do so while listening to the background audio playing. The guitar is in time when recorded, if there is any compensation it must be done while recording.
I believe this is no different, the audio you’re recording just happens to be that “background”.