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Groovebox similar to GR16
Hello everyone! Unfortunately, I only approached the world of music on iPad now, so I don't know this world very well. Is there such a thing as the GR16, but with a less rigid "song mode"? And it's not BM3!
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Korg Electribe 2
What is it about GR16 that you think is ‘rigid’?
drambo
Because as regards the composition of the parts and patterns it is incredibly fast and you have the impression of working with a real machine (like TR909 or similar), but then in the arrangement phase comes the bottleneck: you are forced to put in a row the patterns, without distributing them freely, and it is not even possible to overlap them. I also talked to the developer about it and he agreed with me. But (something that the famous BM3 doesn't have), it has the ability to play with "mute-sync", and it's fantastic!
Drambo is expensive, boring e obsolete for me
Beat Kangz Beat Thang.
is not for iPad, is a Hardware Groovebox!
Beathawk has a more in-depth song mode, but without overlapping patterns. You could manually copy tracks and their patterns and edit those as required.
Maybe look at something more modular like AUM combined with Atom 2? Build your own groovebox the way you want. Maybe even BeatMaker 3 combined with Atom 2?
@dav30383 I've never seen an app with a song mode on iOS that lets you overlap patterns. That's what you'll use a linear DAW for, but then you don't have the groovebox feel.
Beathawk? It has a lot of great things, and an underrated song mode (despite it being MIDI and sample based).
Gadget 2 - Allows you to make your own choices and work with a lot of synths, samples, and more.
GR-16 + Xequence 2.
Build up the ideas in GR-16 where it excels. Record the midi out to Xequence 2 for arrangement, where it excels. Then turn off the transport (Link Start/Stop) in GR-16. Arrange your patterns in Xequence 2 and send the midi to GR-16. This is a workflow that works great.
Everything can be recorded to Xequence 2 in one pass. This includes all notes and automation.
Details and template here: https://patchstorage.com/xequence-2-grooverider-gr-16-patch/
Actually, Sunvox can do that since forever
I was gonna mention iDS-10, but that doesnt do it... But it has part mutes
This is a great workflow. I actually use Xequence 2 even with hardware. So I record my patterns from my EMX, MC-303, QY70 and send back to other hardware or iOS Apps
Just load 2 as plugins if you really need to layer things, map a cross fader in between, and change patterns in real time like groove boxes are meant to be! gr-16 is gold! (sorry I don’t have a better suggestion)
Whaaaat !! Do we live on the same planet ?
I was wondering when this would be addressed.
GR16: $21.99 plus several IAP.
Drambo: $19.99 plus (so far?) one IAP.
In both cases entirely worth it.
I took it as irony, meant in jest. But I could be wrong.
You're probably right.
Korg Gadegt 2 and Electribe Wave seem to fit the bill. They’re self-contained grooveboxes with more complex arrangement options which is what it sounds like you’re looking for.
I don't find Electribe Wave's song mode any better than GR-16's. Worse in some ways.
Gadget did come to mind though.
With GR-16, aren’t you limited in terms of linearity similar to Pure Acid? I don’t believe Electribe Wave has that same issue, granted I haven’t used it much.
It's similar to GR-16. You string patterns in a row and play through them. On the downside you can't set the number of repeats per pattern (if I remember correctly!). On the upside you can set which parts are muted on each pattern and easily see that reflected in the song view. At least that's how I remember it. It's been awhile because I don't care for the sequencer in Electribe Wave at all so I only use it as an AU synth.
Great idea.
Can also use an external sequencer to automate mutes in a host app like AB/AUM which is hosting multiple instances of the GR16 AU.