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BeatHawk - Sidechain

Hello everyone, I'm trying BeatHawk, and I must say that I really like it, is there by chance the possibility of having the sidechain too?

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  • edited May 2021

    Not sure if it works in BeatHawk but 4Pockets SideChainFX works without multi-out functionality so it’s your best bet for any app that has limited capabilities.

  • I like using Audio damage Pumphouse for creating my own ducking pattern.

  • edited May 2021

    @ecou said:
    I like using Audio damage Pumphouse for creating my own ducking pattern.

    Pumphouse is fantastic for ducking. As is Perforator. The downside to both is that they really only work in static patterns. If you have varying kick patterns, you’d want something more dynamic.

    Ultimately depends on if they want legit sidechain compression, dynamic ducking, or static ducking.

  • edited May 2021

    I didn't use Beathawk a long time but AFAIK there it won't work well for several reasons. First of all there is no way to sidechain inside of Beathawk. You can use BH in an AU host that supports sidechaining with AUs such as AUM or Cubasis 3.3. The problem is that the AU host does the sidechaining between AUs and for that it is best to have each instrument in its own channel. Since Beathawk has got no AU multi-out you would need to have a separate instance of BH with the instrument that drives the sidechain.

    Maybe take a look at EG Pulse, it has a very similar UI and workflow as BeatHawk but it supports multi-out. Then you can have each instrument in EG Pulse have it's own channel in the AU host. Then you can use AU FX plugins for each channel separately and easily sidechain whatever you want. AU sidechaining works with AU FX plugins.

    So you will need your beat machine, a good AU host, for instance AUM and a compressor that supports AU sidechaining, e.g. the free RoughRider 3 compressor.

  • yes you are right and in fact I requested a refund for BH, I really liked the management of the patterns and the song mode, but it seems that then they abandoned all those of the UVI, too bad because it could have been a good Groovebox

  • a question, but in E.G. Pulse, is there the possibility of "Key Mode" on the pads? so you can also play the melodic samples

  • edited May 2021

    Yes, you can. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=406685883349079

    I’m using EG Pulse mostly as a sampler. A feature that I like very much is that you can slice up an audio file and then it can assign the slices to the pads. Apart from slicing up loops that can also be used to transfer any other drum machine into Pulse. You just need to record the source drum machine, play every drum sound once and then import and slice up the recording in Pulse. That is much easier than to dump each sample separately and then import them in Pulse.

  • Ah perfect! And there is a possibility to Sidechain compression in pulse?

  • edited May 2021

    All three components will be involved and must be configured right. Let's say you want to sidecain your hats with the kick.

    1. Load "EG Pulse Multi-output" into AUM track 1, then "Multi-bus Audio Unit Instances -> EG Pulse Multi-output @A1" into track 2 and 3
    2. Open Pulse and configure the multi-out in the mixer page: kick to out 1, hats to 2, and all others to 3
    3. Load or create your beat
    4. Load RoughRider3 into AUM effects slot of track #2 and "Multi-bus Audio Unit Instances -> RoughRider3 @A2:1" into effects slot of track 2
    5. Open RoughRider3 of track 1 and turn sidechain on. Adjust compression to your needs.

    The actual sidechaining is happening in AUM because it can utilize AUv3 FX audio multi-out. You can use that for EG Pulse because it can output each of its pads to a separate channel and then the sidechaining is done in AUM, outside of EG Pulse.

  • Very Thanx!

  • edited May 2021

    Maybe the best analogy is to imagine the setup: EG Pulse is your groovebox with 16 pads and 16 outs and AUM is your mixer that you connect Pulse outputs to and you can plug in effects, like the the compressor sidechain, into the mixer and do the signal routing.

    Look, there is a giveaway for EG Pulse right now: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45351/code-giveaway-eg-pulse-by-elliot-garage-demo

    I never thought about that but for a sample based workflow this setup is really cool. You could also check out BeatMaker 3 that delivers all this in one app. I remember BM3 as being not very stable and it crashes often but that knowledge might be outdated.

  • @krassmann said:
    Maybe the best analogy is to imagine the setup: EG Pulse is your groovebox with 16 pads and 16 outs and AUM is your mixer that you connect Pulse outputs to and you can plug in effects, like the the compressor sidechain, into the mixer and do the signal routing.

    Look, there is a giveaway for EG Pulse right now: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/45351/code-giveaway-eg-pulse-by-elliot-garage-demo

    I never thought about that but for a sample based workflow this setup is really cool. You could also check out BeatMaker 3 that delivers all this in one app. I remember BM3 as being not very stable and it crashes often but that knowledge might be outdated.

    BM3 is quite stable for many many people. Most of the stability issues were solved a year or more ago.

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