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Jammy E MIDI guitar

lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker
edited July 2021 in Other

Anyone join the Kickstarter for the Jammy E (second gen) MIDI guitar and get their shipment scheduled to ship in July 2021? I’m interested in whether they’ve improved the tracking at all; the videos of the first gen version didn’t inspire a lot of confidence in playing anything other than long legato phrases.

https://playjammy.com/jammy-e/

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  • mjcouchemjcouche

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Anyone join the Kickstarter for the Jammy E (second gen) MIDI guitar and get their shipment scheduled to ship in July 2021? I’m interested in whether they’ve improved the tracking at all; the videos of the first gen version didn’t inspire a lot of confidence in playing anything other than long legato phrases.

    https://playjammy.com/jammy-e/

    I’ve got the first gen and after a lot of tweaking and firmware updates I’m very happy with it. I can play Classical Gas at the correct speed with very little issue.

    I know the second gen has only improved on the physical sensor technology used.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    Thanks, @mjcouche for your observations about improvements to gen 1. The latest video of the gen 2 does look pretty good in terms of tracking. I think I’ll take the plunge as i do like the portability and i travel a lot for work.

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Thanks, @mjcouche for your observations about improvements to gen 1. The latest video of the gen 2 does look pretty good in terms of tracking. I think I’ll take the plunge as i do like the portability and i travel a lot for work.

    Is the guitar aspect important to you? If not, then I would also consider the Artiphon Instrument 1, which I picked up recently to use with SWAM. Really fun. MPE. Jammy is halfway to MPE.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @mjcouche said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Thanks, @mjcouche for your observations about improvements to gen 1. The latest video of the gen 2 does look pretty good in terms of tracking. I think I’ll take the plunge as i do like the portability and i travel a lot for work.

    Is the guitar aspect important to you? If not, then I would also consider the Artiphon Instrument 1, which I picked up recently to use with SWAM. Really fun. MPE. Jammy is halfway to MPE.

    What do you mean by guitar aspect? I have played guitar so long that it is more natural for me to sing my songs “keeping my hands busy”. Currently I use an acoustic with a pickup that drives MIDI Guitar 2 and I’m very pleased with the results after adapting my playing style to keep the signal clean for MG2. So, at home, i keep on that track, but on the road I want something more portable and easy (Bluetooth instead of an interface to capture audio etc). I thought jammy would be in the neighborhood of that easy solution that still plays enough like a guitar that it feels natural.

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @mjcouche said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Thanks, @mjcouche for your observations about improvements to gen 1. The latest video of the gen 2 does look pretty good in terms of tracking. I think I’ll take the plunge as i do like the portability and i travel a lot for work.

    Is the guitar aspect important to you? If not, then I would also consider the Artiphon Instrument 1, which I picked up recently to use with SWAM. Really fun. MPE. Jammy is halfway to MPE.

    What do you mean by guitar aspect? I have played guitar so long that it is more natural for me to sing my songs “keeping my hands busy”. Currently I use an acoustic with a pickup that drives MIDI Guitar 2 and I’m very pleased with the results after adapting my playing style to keep the signal clean for MG2. So, at home, i keep on that track, but on the road I want something more portable and easy (Bluetooth instead of an interface to capture audio etc). I thought jammy would be in the neighborhood of that easy solution that still plays enough like a guitar that it feels natural.

    Ah yes I understand. I apologize for not being clearer before. If you want the strings feel, hammer ons and pull offs etc then Jammy is it. It may take some tweaking, and their team is very responsive to help you get the instrument sounding right, but it will get you there. I’ve sent midi files to them and they will tell me exactly what I need to change, where to play on the strings themselves to make it sound (mostly with fingerpicking technique) and play like a guitar. The Instrument 1 can still do some decent strumming and fingerpicking but not like the Jammy. Plus, Jammy is bluetooth, Instrument 1 is not.

    I would love to hear more about your MG2 set up. I got it very recently to try to send the midi to Harmonizr to do guitar-led vocal harmonies but haven’t really had the time to dive in yet.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @mjcouche said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @mjcouche said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Thanks, @mjcouche for your observations about improvements to gen 1. The latest video of the gen 2 does look pretty good in terms of tracking. I think I’ll take the plunge as i do like the portability and i travel a lot for work.

    Is the guitar aspect important to you? If not, then I would also consider the Artiphon Instrument 1, which I picked up recently to use with SWAM. Really fun. MPE. Jammy is halfway to MPE.

    What do you mean by guitar aspect? I have played guitar so long that it is more natural for me to sing my songs “keeping my hands busy”. Currently I use an acoustic with a pickup that drives MIDI Guitar 2 and I’m very pleased with the results after adapting my playing style to keep the signal clean for MG2. So, at home, i keep on that track, but on the road I want something more portable and easy (Bluetooth instead of an interface to capture audio etc). I thought jammy would be in the neighborhood of that easy solution that still plays enough like a guitar that it feels natural.

    Ah yes I understand. I apologize for not being clearer before. If you want the strings feel, hammer ons and pull offs etc then Jammy is it. It may take some tweaking, and their team is very responsive to help you get the instrument sounding right, but it will get you there. I’ve sent midi files to them and they will tell me exactly what I need to change, where to play on the strings themselves to make it sound (mostly with fingerpicking technique) and play like a guitar. The Instrument 1 can still do some decent strumming and fingerpicking but not like the Jammy. Plus, Jammy is bluetooth, Instrument 1 is not.

    I would love to hear more about your MG2 set up. I got it very recently to try to send the midi to Harmonizr to do guitar-led vocal harmonies but haven’t really had the time to dive in yet.

    Thanks for the clarification. I do think jammy is a better fit for my style. I do a lot of string centered techniques, like hammer ons etc.

    I use MG2 for lots of applications including supplying MIDI to guide vocal harmonies (i use voice bot). But in most tunes I simply have MG2 creating ambient and paychedelic textures behind picked arpeggios and chords on the guitar. I like the sound of the attack of the acoustic instrument with the softer attack sounds I layer behind it. Lately I’ve even been triggering brief MIDI phrases when I play a specific set of root notes on the guitar. I also use Freedrum BT controllers on my feet to trigger samples and loops, but that’s a different kettle of fish. I’ll make a video here one of these days.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @mjcouche One last question: I hear some clacking from the strings in the videos when someone is picking. Do they click loudly playing finger pick style?

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    @mjcouche One last question: I hear some clacking from the strings in the videos when someone is picking. Do they click loudly playing finger pick style?

    You will hear it for sure. It’s sort of like when you play the strings after the saddle or the nut (not on the fretboard), though not as loud or high pitched. Definitely fine for a hotel room, but maybe not if your wife is sleeping next to you.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @mjcouche said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    @mjcouche One last question: I hear some clacking from the strings in the videos when someone is picking. Do they click loudly playing finger pick style?

    You will hear it for sure. It’s sort of like when you play the strings after the saddle or the nut (not on the fretboard), though not as loud or high pitched. Definitely fine for a hotel room, but maybe not if your wife is sleeping next to you.

    OK, cool. My concern was the hotel room context so appreciate the input.

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