Loopy Pro: Create music, your way.

What is Loopy Pro?Loopy Pro is a powerful, flexible, and intuitive live looper, sampler, clip launcher and DAW for iPhone and iPad. At its core, it allows you to record and layer sounds in real-time to create complex musical arrangements. But it doesn’t stop there—Loopy Pro offers advanced tools to customize your workflow, build dynamic performance setups, and create a seamless connection between instruments, effects, and external gear.

Use it for live looping, sequencing, arranging, mixing, and much more. Whether you're a live performer, a producer, or just experimenting with sound, Loopy Pro helps you take control of your creative process.

Download on the App Store

Loopy Pro is your all-in-one musical toolkit. Try it for free today.

Which ThunderBolt 4 HUB for Mac Mini M1?

The user and all related content has been deleted.

Comments

  • edited July 2021

    Ive had quite a few docks in my time. Caldigit works as advertised. Used the owc ones too...great stuff, waiting for their v4 to come out.
    Just bought the wife a glyph thunderdock so she can stop pestering me to back up her laptop. Perfect for her, but I need more ports.
    You you can just go all in....

  • edited July 2021
    The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • I meant to say the thunderbolt 3 dock (not 4) from OWC, it just recently came available. Looked last week and they were still preorder. I can add one to a cart now.
    I can also say my 1st gen from them also worked wih an m1 (thunderbolt 1 speeds w/ adapter).

    The rack has no drivers. Will work forever. Only matters what drivers work for the pcie cards.
    I can find them for about 700us, but still pricey, but cant complain when you can throw cards on a mini (looking at you UAD). The older racks w/ TB1 and 2 only had drivers for the gigabit ethernet cards in them.

    The OWC stuff has never let me down, and id recommend it over the caldigit. Or over anything really with the amt of ports it has. They sit on my desk and my minis are racked and away (with their cheaper soultion which is just an enclosure for 2 minis)

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • edited July 2021

    I am referring to this one,
    https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-dock

    Edit: its late...the above one is the preorder one.

  • I miss FireWire 400

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • Sorry for all the confusion. They're solid. You won't be disappointed.

  • edited July 2021

    @AlmostAnonymous said:
    I am referring to this one,
    https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-dock

    Edit: its late...the above one is the preorder one.

    Does it support the iPad Pro M1 2021?

    It seems to be very similar to the Sonnet Echo 11 Thunderbolt 4 Dock. Which one is the original?
    https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo11-thunderbolt4-dock/overview.html

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • @Iskander said:

    @AlmostAnonymous said:
    I am referring to this one,
    https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-dock

    Edit: its late...the above one is the preorder one.

    Does it support the iPad Pro M1 2021?

    It seems to be very similar to the Sonnet Echo 11 Thunderbolt 4 Dock. Which one is the original?
    https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo11-thunderbolt4-dock/overview.html

    Ive used both owc and sonnet stuff. Theyre both the the same. Sonnet tends to have a slightly larger price tag on it.

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @Iskander said:

    @AlmostAnonymous said:
    I am referring to this one,
    https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-dock

    Edit: its late...the above one is the preorder one.

    Does it support the iPad Pro M1 2021?

    It seems to be very similar to the Sonnet Echo 11 Thunderbolt 4 Dock. Which one is the original?
    https://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo11-thunderbolt4-dock/overview.html

    Ive used both owc and sonnet stuff. Theyre both the the same. Sonnet tends to have a slightly larger price tag on it. Keep in mind these 2 kind of docks are meant to be stationary. Thie PSUs are rather large to supply power to all of those connections.

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • edited July 2021
    The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • edited July 2021
    The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • edited July 2021

    OK...you got a lot going on here...so lemme try and answer these

    @tja said:
    The product page at https://www.owcshop.eu/catalog/product_info.php/thunderbolt-dock-p-2006 still mentions "Estimated shipping on 15/08/2021."

    Correct, i see that as well.

    @tja said:
    Maybe they sent me an older device?!?
    I contacted OWC about this ...

    Post a pic of the dock.

    @tja said:
    I tried Blackmagic Disk Speed Test on my T7 Touch 1TB:
    Directly connected to the Mac USB-C: about 658 MB/s both read and write.
    As I read that things get faster with a Hub, the following is massively disappointing:

    Not sure where you read that, but a dock/hub won't accelerate a data transfer

    @tja said:
    Connected to the OWC Hub: about 530 MB/s and 512 MB/s write

    This is about what I get with my t7. This is also on a thunderbolt 2 dock with usb3.1gen1 ports
    Sometimes i get more, sometimes a bit less. USB fluctuates a lot where as thunderbolt tends to run at the top of its bandwidth.
    This is due to software controllers (USB) vs hardware controllers (TB).

    @tja said:
    The SSD is rated for about 1000 MB/S and could reach over 900 MB/s here:

    There are theroretical maximums. Never a real wolrd case. Only times I get over 1000mb is when i start using SSD raids.

    @tja said:
    So, this Hub is not as good as I thought and I am really not sure about sending it back.

    They are all like this really. The caldigit was no faster or slower than the OWC one. My glyph is no faster or slower either (except for the built in NVME). I use the OWCs because it has the most ports for expansion by far for the same or less loot. I never had a problem with any of them thus my previous recommendation a few days ago.

    @tja said:
    The Mac's internal disk reached 2852 MB/s read and 2860 MB/s write.

    To be expected for SoC, no usb bus, etc. Even NVME drives rated at 3000mb a sec, i've never achieved read/writes of 2000mb from my mini or air (again, unless im using RAIDs)

    @tja said:
    Only one of my monitors still shows the same behavior and does not come back after a sleep.
    Massively annoying.
    @tja said:

    Not sure i can help here as I am a 1 monitor guy. But how are these display connected? 1 to the mac and 1 to the dock?
    And the one on the mac doesn't come on, but the one on the dock does? If so, try connecting both to the dock?

    In this case, I need to unplug the USB-C-to-DisplayPort cable at the Mac - it does not suffice to unplug at the monitor.
    Again annoying.
    @tja said:

    There is a displaylink driver for docks that support it. I've found even installing this driver alone has helped with m1 dual displays even if the dock doesn't support displaylink. Maybe i'm just giving myself the Jedi Mind Trick, not sure.

    @tja said:
    And I cannot even open a case at Apple.
    They only allow you to give "feedback" without any reply.

    Its just the manual web version of "Send Report to Apple" for crashes :wink:

    Overall (with the exception of the display issue) you seem to be experiencing what you should in real world (not theoretical maximums).
    I'd need to know more about your endgame and can provide more info.
    If you got a mini with a smaller drive and were looking to use an external to boot from, or host 99% of your content, this doesn't work well. The memory swaps wont work at the mini's 2000mb/s speeds. (if this is what you were looking to do...i was and have tried. worked well for daily driving, but not large logic projects).

    Docks are convenience, not necessarily a performance expansion. There is a bottleneck going from TB to USB (and you have added a hop in there). Thunderbolt 1 vs tb 2/3/4... i cant even saturate a TB1 connection, and externals dont perform any faster on a tb3 dock than a tb1. They're only as fast as their interface.
    That being said...spending 100's of dollars more on faster enclosures and drives to gain 1-3 seconds of my life back in speed....that loot was better spend on other things imho.
    And being audio files are most small files that lose the benefits of sustained read/write speeds of large files...

    (hope there was something helpful in all that keyboard smashing i did)

  • Another thing I just thought of, are you using a thunderbolt cable (in the box) to connect the mini to the dock, and not a usb-c cable? I know the TB cables they come with are mad short.

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • The dock should have come with a TB cable, not usb-c. My docks show up under TB bus in system profile, not USB. The performance difference is huge, so you may wanna try a TB cable. I'd also try connecting the 2nd display to the dock, the usbc one. I bet it will wake up with the computer from sleep.

    I never shut my computers down. Sorry Earth. My display turns off after 10min instead of a screensaver, but it always wakes up. Dock connected, not mac connected. TB to DisplayPort adapter.

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • edited July 2021

    What I was asking is if the dock itself shows up under the USB tree or the TB tree.
    Just make sure its a tb cable. I'm getting confused because you cant use usb-c and tb in dialog in terms of a connector. Same connector, completely different cables (which you are aware). I deal with this all day with end users:

    "my drive isnt showing up for my externals"
    "are you using a TB cable?"
    "yes, it is. its this connector"
    "are you sure...they are the same connector"
    "yep. tb cable"
    /me goes and checks it out
    "this is a usbc cable. where is the thunderbolt cable that was connected here yesterday?"
    "oh i needed a cable to charge my ipad. i couldnt find mine so i took that one home. charlie gave me his ipad thunderbolt cable to use today"
    /me shakes his head as he give charlie back his usb-c cable

    I put a TB DAS on that "unused" port. Get you a little better speed than going through the dock bus. No sense in dedicating 40gb/sec to a single display.

  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
  • The user and all related content has been deleted.
Sign In or Register to comment.