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Etymology of ‘Bounce’

BiancaNeveBiancaNeve
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Anyone know how bouncing got it’s name?

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  • michael_mmichael_m

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/bounce

  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve

    @michael_m said:
    https://www.etymonline.com/word/bounce

    I meant bounce as in bouncing to an audio file ….

  • AudioGusAudioGus
    edited July 2021

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ping-pong_recording

    Ping-pong recording (also called ping-ponging, bouncing tracks, or reduction mixing) is a method of sound recording. It involves combining multiple track stems into one, allowing more room for overdubbing when using tape recorders with a limited set of tracks. It is also used to simplify mixdowns.

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    I think the original term comes from bouncing tracks between tapes (either tracks or machines) to record more tracks than the machine could handle.

  • BiancaNeveBiancaNeve
    edited July 2021

    @NeonSilicon said:
    I think the original term comes from bouncing tracks between tapes (either tracks or machines) to record more tracks than the machine could handle.

    But that’s a temporal anomaly….. you’ve defined the original term as coming from itself…..
    But someone had to choose the word to describe that activity- I just wondered if anyone knew why they chose it.
    Like for example computer glitches being called bugs because a moth found in an early computer caused it to malfunction.

  • McDMcD

    After a little Googling, I think of "bouncing" as a pre-mature mix down:

    The term "bouncing audio" originates from the era when recording was done on tape decks with a limited number of tracks. The idea of "bouncing" means that you would record on all but one track, and then mix those tracks together and move them to the last track, freeing them up for more recording. In modern terminology the process is much the same, meaning to record multiple tracks, mix them together, and record more tracks on top of the mixed track.

    So, it's not overdubbing. It's doing a mix (that cannot be undone) and adding more tracks before doing a final mix down of the bounced tracks and the extra tracks.

    So, bounce makes some sense because that process creates an intermediate music artifact
    that needs to be mixed at a later stage. Bounce implies a rebound step to follow the bounce.

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @NeonSilicon said:
    I think the original term comes from bouncing tracks between tapes (either tracks or machines) to record more tracks than the machine could handle.

    But that’s a temporal anomaly….. you’ve defined the original term as coming from itself…..
    But someone had to choose the word to describe that activity- I just wondered if anyone knew why they chose it.
    Like for example computer glitches being called bugs because a moth found in an early computer caused it to malfunction.

    It was the context of it being on tape machines and "bouncing" the tracks back and forth between the machines that gave it the sort of nonsensical term bounce. The ping-pong description gives the same sort of visual idea of what was being done. It doesn't seem to me that it had any deeper meaning than that. It was probably just easier to say than reduction mixing or ping-pong. It doesn't make much sense in any production setting now as a term although I see it being used in place of "freezing" tracks.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @BiancaNeve said:

    @NeonSilicon said:
    I think the original term comes from bouncing tracks between tapes (either tracks or machines) to record more tracks than the machine could handle.

    But that’s a temporal anomaly….. you’ve defined the original term as coming from itself…..
    But someone had to choose the word to describe that activity- I just wondered if anyone knew why they chose it.
    Like for example computer glitches being called bugs because a moth found in an early computer caused it to malfunction.

    Bounce sometimes means to go back and forth as in bouncing an idea or "bounce between jobs". So, bouncing was sending from one tape recorder to another or one set of tracks to another in that sense.

  • AudioGusAudioGus

  • SimonSimon

    We used the term in video production (before digital).

    You'd have something on tape machine A and then record it onto machine B. Then you'd play it from B back onto A while adding something else like graphics over the top.

    So, the material would "bounce" from machine A to B and back to A again.

  • michael_mmichael_m

    I assume as others do that it’s the tracks moving from one tape machine to another and potentially back again. That was especially true when everything was done on 1/4 tape, and you essentially layered on top of previously recorded takes when overdubbing.

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