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Shortcut for copying a file to cloud storages?

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  • Although you lack experience with it, Shortcuts would be your best bet. You’ll have to do some homework.

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  • Dang it. I thought it would work…

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  • Yes, if it’s not in iCloud or Dropbox, you have to select the file manually. There are two ways to do it:
    1. You run your shortcut and select the file to copy manually using the file select dialog
    2. Or you open Files app, long tap on the source file, select Share and then your shortcut. The shortcut will receive that file as input. I think this one is a little bit quicker
    To quickly locate your file you can use tags

    Some apps (a-Shell, Scriptable) allow to “bookmark” folders - it’s a way to access files outside of their sandboxes. Scriptable and Toolbox Pro allow to bookmark files. But it only works for local files, iCloud, probably Dropbox but not sure, and apps like Secure Shellfish and Working Copy (they support Open-in-place). No luck with OneDrive

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  • I wrote this to run backups of all my useful app data:

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/43953/ios-file-backup-pythonista-script

    It “raw” so you need to know what you are doing but it has been working for me to safely back up the data from multiple apps for the last few months.

    It uses the bookmark principle mentioned above and so comes with the same limitations.

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  • @tja said:

    @NeonSilicon said:
    Python?

    I seem to remember that Python is just an alternative to JavaScript (as from Scriptable), but it does not have more or other ways of access. This is an iOS / iPadOS limitation.

    I assumed that you were working at doing the synching and copying not on iOS. I was thinking along the lines of initiate from the iPad up to one service and then trigger the sync externally.

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  • @tja said:

    @yug said:
    Yes, if it’s not in iCloud or Dropbox, you have to select the file manually. There are two ways to do it:
    1. You run your shortcut and select the file to copy manually using the file select dialog
    2. Or you open Files app, long tap on the source file, select Share and then your shortcut. The shortcut will receive that file as input. I think this one is a little bit quicker
    To quickly locate your file you can use tags

    Yes, this would be a solution for getting the source file.
    But this does not solve the problem for the multiple target files in the different storages.

    As @WTK wrote, this can be solved with Scriptable - but not for all types of storage, sadly.

    That’s true. Not for all types of storage. Most devs(looking at you Microsoft and Dropbox) just don’t care or they don’t want you to access files from outside their apps

    And I personally hate JavaScript :) So I’d use a-Shell or Toolbox Pro, they can save files to bookmarked folders too

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  • Well, if you have a Linux server, why not use it for this?
    You can upload a new version of the file via SFTP, Dropbox or OneDrive. And then start a ssh script remotely to sync changes to other clouds using rclone

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    @yug said:
    So I’d use a-Shell or Toolbox Pro, they can save files to bookmarked folders too

    Toolbox Pro?
    I thought that this just adds actions for Shortcut.

    I never had a closer look at it for other usages.
    Also added to my TODO list!

    Thanks again

    This is what they have in the Files and Folders category

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  • @tja said:

    @yug said:
    Well, if you have a Linux server, why not use it for this?
    You can upload a new version of the file via SFTP, Dropbox or OneDrive. And then start a ssh script remotely to sync changes to other clouds using rclone

    This is an astonishing application.

    I am not sure that I like their concept of installation via executing the code that you get from some URL :-D
    And the script just tries to copy stuff to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin ....
    Way too much done for me. I still may check out the source and try to compile myself.

    I noticed that it is also available from Mac Ports:

    # port list rclone
    rclone @1.55.1 net/rclone

    It is a great piece of software. It's open source and used by many. I use it on my mac to copy files from/to Dropbox and OneDrive, I've uninstalled their client desktop apps long ago (Dropbox had that sneaky kernel extension and OneDrive was slowing down my machine). The only downside is it can not sync two-way but it's in the road map

    I don't use mac ports, I use brew - brew install rclone

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  • How often does this sync need to occur? Or are you gonna do it manually?
    I actually use ChronoSync on the mac for all of this. You can schedule the backups (as many as you want, I have mine broken out into about 20 different tasks including backing up remote computers in the house to a NAS), and it will wake you mac for the backups.
    I dunno if I'd trust an ipad and files app on wifi as a reliable brain for a backup/sync solution.

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    Chronosync will not update a changed password, but it will wake and shutdown your mac when the task is required.
    I use Chronosync monitor on my mobile for push notifications and monitoring of tasks.

    I should probably change my passwords more often, but they're all above 100bits, so I don't sweat it too much.

    I use a 2012 mac mini server running bare metal and 3 vms (so no macOS overhead), which sits in the corner always powered on to handle these types of things. All the automated stuff. You can pick them up for about 250$ with an i7. Another 150$+ and you can get 2 1tb ssd's (which isn't close to full cause I dont store anything local in the VMs) and max it out at the 16gb of RAM. More than speedy for these tasks and outperforms my synology for these things by far.

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    Now, as soon as I change something in the password database, this will be synced to OneDrive and all devices see the new version.

    Ideally, any change would also trigger a copy to the other storages.
    But this may only be possible when StrongBox does this itself.

    So, just when I would start the shortcut to distribute the new version.

    As I said, neither PC nor Mac are constantly running and cannot do this.
    But as it seems, I have half of a solution and will later try to implement it.
    I am just not sure if I like the bookmarks, as it seems that they need to be created on all devices.
    Mabye I can create a shortcut, that creates the bookmarks, so that they can be used.

    Using the Linux server as distributor does also not work for me, as this is just a virtual machine.
    I would only use this, when using a full root server which I can also fully encrypt on disk.

    Much more difficult than I originally hoped ;-)

    Thanks!

    Ok, I did some digging and maybe iSH is what you need

    You can access folders outside ish's sandbox using mount: mount -t ios . /mnt
    It will display a standard folder select dialog. Again, as with other apps, it will be just local files, iCloud, Working Copy

    And you can actually install rclone inside iSH. It's based on Alpine Linux, so you'll have to use Alpine's package manager apk

    apk update
    apk add rclone
    

    It seems to run but I haven't tested it yet. It takes time to setup authorization, etc.

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