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Microbrute mixed with iPhone
Ok... My mom is using my camera for vacation, so a video will have to wait until next week. I went to Three Wave Synth here in New Jersey today (I discovered the store through this forum) and I bought an Arturia Microbrute on sale. Now at the moment I am controlling it with irig midi and Gestrument, muza, soundprism, magellan, little midi machine, every single iPhone app that has midi out. And I may not sleep tonight. This mix of new analog synth knob tweaking with iPhone apps... Will expand my studio into just plain awesome realms.
I played the microbrute at Moogfest last month and thought.... I like this... Now I can say... I was right. Wow.
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I say the iPhone is THE platform to develop music apps for, mostly because of the size-to-power ratio, not to mention the portability factor.
In this case I must agree... some pics from Three Wave Synth today (there should be more then one, if not just continue looking on my FB page, I keep it public after all) ;
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=236358929887015&set=ms.236358926553682.236358929887015.236370766552498.236358923220349.bps.a.151111195078456&type=1&theater
I cannot wait to post a video of this phenomenal awesomenessness and madness of iPhone and MicroBrute analog synth ...
I have a Microbrute and it is an truly incredible synth for very little money, true analogue, no presets, no effects. A fantastic little sequencer and some neat semi modular stuff, but connevtivity is were this little brute really shines. USB MIDI, MIDI in, Audio In, and a stack of CV Stuff. In the future I will do some tutorials on the conectivity side. i love this with DM1, had it running with Nave yesterday, too lush.
Hey Shawn have you got the Brute LFO app, its an iPhone app too, you plug the output of the phone or in my case the iPad into various parts of the mod matrix for some truly wacky syuf
Can the micro brute do MIDI in to CV out? Manual didn't say anything about it. I'd like to sequence my sh-101 via MIDI.
Not sure still exploring all the conectivity options, but there is a massive amount of YT videos with it synced to various things, when I start demoing this it will mainly feature it with the iPad
Looking into the Brute LFO app now. I spent hours alone just tweaking knobs trying to get some basic "muscle memory" down so I can learn how to make it sound a specific way.
I just absolutely suggest this synth to anyone. What's funny is when I saw it at Moogfest I was in a room surrounded by the most expensive gear you could imagine... And don't get me wrong I loved all the vintage gear, but I kept coming back to the MicroBrute. I knew I had to have it.
Has anyone tried the rubber band method with the knobs? You know where a rubber band is twisted or places plainly on multiple knobs to control them all at once??
So I bought a patch splitter and I installed Brute LFO on my iPhone and iPod (I use them both at same time!!). And so far the arpeggionome app is the best app to tweak with MicroBrute. Yes DM1, Funkbox , midibus and so on is amazing. I will just take this instrument, the MicroBrute, and pour myself into like the 30 other instruments I love.
Wow yeah, never even thought of using Arpeggionome, gonna reinstall it now
Love love love the microbrute. Picked one up back in November, and it actually got me back into writing with hardware again for the most part.
If I'm playing in my spare room I just run it into an old stereo memory man and into my amp... Usually I'm in my bedroom, and I run the headphone out into my griffin studio connect and use all sorts of fx apps(AUFX mostly, but Turnado and WOW are so great while tweaking the physical knobs and running a sequence).
I was going to get the Brute LFO app when it first came out, but I think on gearslutz or muff wiggler someone said that the iPhone/ipad only send out at max using a sine wave less than 1volt. So I just use headphone splitters to send CV from the gate/lfo/envelope to multiple sources since the Arturia guys said on their forum that the CV from those sources is strong enough to modulate two sources on the patch bay.
@syrupcore said:
Yeah it can. It sends CV at 0 to +10v using V/Oct. I've used Arpeggionome in the past with the CV out going to my Monotribe and it sends the note data beautifully.
Brute LFO makes minor changes but seems to be better when coming from two devices with a patch splitter.
I cannot stress how much I love this instrument. I think I am going to start playing publicly again. Either get Spark LE or Roland tr 8 and tb 3 and hook my iPhone up to MicroBrute and just put on some shows.
Any other good midi out/ clock apps will be great for midibus and MicroBrute... Get some odd time sigs going
Hey! How about resurrecting this thread from long ago?! Sorry, but I just picked up a Brute and am getting to know it. Found midi brute for tweaking the software-only settings via my phone (instead of computer). That's gonna be super handy. How are you guys connecting arpeggionome etc? CCK?
I connect with auxy through cck.
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Did you ever get round to doing these vids ?
I love my MicroBrute! Since I got my iPad, I've been keeping the Brute by the side of my bed for instant bedroom producing. I love using it with GarageBand and BeatMaker2. With GarageBand, I record the audio from the Brute straight into GB the old fashioned way without MIDI. With BM2, I record the MIDI first and then bounce the track to audio to create a multi-track song. I have a few songs on my youtube page that were made with the Brute and GB. It's the first thing I did after buying my iPad mini 4 last summer! Before I had the iPad, I used the Brute with Maschine as a live looper. Here's an example:
Peace \/
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I'm a big fan of the Arturia's Steiner-Parker emulating filter (which is on the Mini/Microbrutes). Getting to run external audio through it has been lovely.
Nice version of photographic on your Chanel chisel
Thanks! I'm glad you like it.
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chisel316
This makes me wan't to get a MicroBrute so bad it hurts...
(The first patch I would make would be to route the Envelope to Pulse-Width for some classic C64-Style slow PWM-Sweep sounds adding vibrato with the Wheel).
Nicely done, keep em coming
Thanks. I created a similar patch and played the Legend of Zelda theme over and over. Best therapy ever. It's a superb little synth with a huge sound.
When I first bought the iPad mini 4 (my first iOS device), I immediately plugged in the MicroBrute and recorded this track. Great first experience.
Here's another MicroBrute-featured track:
Lastly, here's a quick jam session with a funk patch I made:
Peace \/
chisel316
I accidentally bought a Korg Minilogue the other week, and it's currently married to Audiobus and all the effects available on iOS. But looking to expand w/ just one more analog synth (then I'm done...again), and it's either the MicroBrute or Basstation II. While u can squeeze out some nice bass sounds with the Minilogue, I'm looking for something more gnarly/mean sounding. Anyone have both? I'm mainly gonna want to be able to get that juicy overdriven sound, not necessarily al'a some disted 303 or Volca Bass thing, but a filter that can add some Q without sucking up all the low-end that tends to happen w/ a lot of filters. Know the brute have their "brute" thang going on, don't really know that much about the Basstation II.
Edit: Forgot to add, it needs a wicked wubwub (or a proper good LFO as old people calls it)
I have both, Chris. The Microbrute has more character, the BS2 is more versatile. The knobs and sliders are surprisingly solid on both, but the BS2 has a much nicer keybed: not just full-size keys, but better action and aftertouch (if you care about that). The mBrute keys are small (which I don't mind) but also squishy (which I do). Both of them have filters that can take high-Q without sucking out too much bass. I prefer the BS2, which has a more Rolandy flavor and three settings at LP: 12dB, 24dB, and "diode" (i.e., TB-303). The Brute's filter seems less linear: I think that's what gives it some of its character. Both synths have filter overdrive; the Brute's seems, again, less linear and predictable to me. I'd say the Brute's oscillators sound more lively: that could be a VCO vs. DCO thing. But for bass I really prefer the BS2: one or both of its oscillators can be set to a sine wave, as can its suboscillator. The sines can give your bass some real weight. The mBrute has a suboscillator too, but it's always a square wave (though you can pitch it up to a fifth, which is a neat trick that I never use).
If I had to keep one, I wouldn't have to think: BS2. But the mBrute's a lot of fun, and its narrower range might actually be the one where you find your gnarly. I say that, not to create the illusion of being impartial (I obviously like one better) or disclaim responsibility. But I remember something that someone said when I was looking for my first guitar: an instrument is like a girlfriend, very personal. You're a better musician than I am (like your Nave presets, by the way), so you already know this.
Of course, if it's squelchy bass you're after, you might ask Tim Webb about his TT-303.
Thanks @dokwok2 ! That did help a lot, not sure if it made things easier (it's kinda hmm...maybe I REALLY need both lol). Interesting about the sub oscs. I'm leaning towards the BS2 though, being able to dial in a sub that's not always a square is preferable. Also, no more squelchy bass needed here, have enough of that. Need to bookmark this, ponder on it some more before ordering. Just discovered a key is messed up on my other new toy, so need to deal with sending that back, and lord knows when I'll be getting that one back seeing as Korg can't keep up with the demand
I was interested in the Korg Minologue at first but I can't understand why they left out the option to control the pulse width with the envelope, it's such a classic modulation source? It s a good way to add extra bite to bass sounds (Like those from Juno-60). The Microbrute has that option but lacks other features.
O well, guess I'll wait for 'Mother-64' with at least a few oscillators that can double as LFO's a few envelopes and full patch-bay.
The next 'soft-synth' for iOS that I'm looking forward to is Dagger from Beepstreet.
Really enjoyed reading @dokwok2 's comments and comparison of the MicroBrute vs BassStation. I have kind of a similar dilemma - I have to return a used MicroBrute ($199) due to a defect with the oscillator bleeding through, which some Forum members helped me diagnose on another thread.
Problem is, I was really starting to like the MicroBrute, but $299 for a new one is a little more questionable given my very casual need for it. I guess the bigger issue I'm having is that I have this stockpile of great iOS synths (and a 25-key MIDI controller not unlike the one on the MicroBrute)...so if I were asked why is it better to own an analog piece of hardware that does the same thing for considerably more money, I'd struggle to explain that. It's certainly a cooler experience to nerd out on having real knobs and faders to play with, but I also feel a bit burned by my first experience with a hardware synth having an unfixable glitch that means I have to try and take it back.
So, if I had to guess what I'm going to do, my options are to piece together some additional money and buy a brand new MicroBrute, grab one of the Korg Volcas and pocket a few bucks, or re-assess and see if a BassStation or MiniNova makes more sense for me.
Do any of the sub-$500 options from Korg or Novation have USB Audio out? That was one bummer of an omission from the MicroBrute, which I was otherwise really starting to dig.
Yeah it is what it is. Every synth have their limitations, especially in this price range. It still sounds very lovely tho.;) Ability to modulate at least one more target would be nice. One thing to remember tho when it comes to lacking modulation abilities is that the Minilogue can motion sequence 4 different knobs, so unless you need it all in sync, that's 4 modulation sources/tracks that can be used and sequenced in all kinds of ways (obviously you can't have any note data on the presets sequencer since the sequencer needs to be running). That, and all parameters of the synth do have a knob or switch right on the panel (except for portamento, dunno why they left that in the menu).
Edit: For what's it worth, it comes with a free game, Arkanoid. I haven't been able to clear the screen before it's done tuning. I am hoping another lfo mod destination will become available if you're able to beat it.
Who knows, maybe there will be a software update that will allow additional modulation routings using the menus.
(I was hoping that would be the case and downloaded the manual, but nog go with the current firmware version).
The 'sequencer' is digital so it would be nice to run each 'modulation-track' at different tempo-deviation and select individually 'interpolate step-values or 'set step-values' like on the old Electribes.
Technically I don't think it would have been to hard to implement a few more modulation routings as the 'routing' is handled by 'program' inside the keyboard. I really did enjoy the 'tear down' of the Monologue to see what's inside the box.
Well you can have the motion sequencer step from one value to the another on each step in the sequencer (and for each of the 4 available), akin to parameters locks. I'm not 100% if you can edit this in the step edit mode, but it's certainly doable by just recording the knobs movements "live" at a lower bpm (if needed). There are two modes, smooth (where it plays back your automations just like you'd expect), and a mode where it steps/jumps between values. You can also enable/disable any of the 4 motion sequences on the fly while playing. I haven't messed around with the sequencer at all really yet though, but some presets makes use of the 4 motions stepping to various values on each step to get some really "out there" sounds