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I’ve never tried Ruismaker, but if it’s anything like Ruismaker Noir, it will definitely have the edge on the interface. VADrum does sound really good though, like all Ryo apps. And it’s still on sale. Not sure how long, but it’s usually $14.99-$15.99
It’s on sale today for $/£5.99.
And it’s universal (iPhone/ipad/Mac)
Bargain.
Thanks for making that comment and getting the thread bumped to the front. I hadn’t seen this before and just got it.
The UI is a bit wacky, but this is actually pretty useful.
Judging by the comments above I would say it’s very underrated.
They’ve obviously shied away from marketing it as an 808/909 clone but that’s what it is.
It’s a pretty cool emulation and although I have more sampled TR sounds than I can shake a stick at I’m a big fan of synth based emulations — and having a virtual 808 in my phone for £6 is crazy.
It’s great but I hope some day the dev will revamp the UI, so you will have all the percussions on one page without switching. AudioDamage proved with Axon 3 that you can make tiny microscopic dials and we still seem to work it out somehow.
How does everyone fare with it not being multiout? I suppose all the tools are there to mix everything in the app itself but I still tend to use something else instead due to it
Multiple instances works for me. In Logic it would appear that CPU use is based on the number of voices playing rather than the number of instances. This also has the benefit that I can arrange the drums in the arrange window directly. Such as independently change say the hi hat pattern, mute regions I don’t want, have different length patterns for each hit etc. logic is pretty efficient with multiple instances such that I never actually bother with multi outs.
Anyways. I’ve used multi instances instead of multi outs in every app forever. Going back decades.
I usually mix and match drums too. So rarely use one app foe every hit.
And lastly if I want, say, a big reverb on the snare hit I often only want it on the odd snare — having it on a separate track means I also have the ‘standard’ snare on a different track.
If I wanted to control the drums in one pattern I would make a track stack — and limit the midi range of each track to ensure I get the correct assignments (this is exactly what Logic’s DMD does) — or make the kit with DMD, with a different instance for each hit.
If I start with a patter and want the individual hits I’ll extract those from the pattern (or extract each note separately via pitch via that command).
Having said all of that — VADrum could do with a distortion module. It would make standalone mode more fun.
@klownshed thanks, those are good tips. I do sometimes hate how multiout is implemented anyway when I have to make another bus in aum just for high hats or percussion so I might as well do it like that. Yeah a distortion would cool, I like the one on VAmono a lot and would like to hear that on some kicks and snares
I can see why multi-outs can be good to, but I don’t really care if a plugin has them or not personally as I use an alternative method that works for me. I think some hosts aren’t so efficient with multiple instances so that could be a major issue depending on which host you use.
It’s hard to criticise VADrum for just over a fiver though :-)
It's incredible how this app has been given so little consideration. there's been a lot of talk about 909 808 clones on the forum for years, and this is the only non-sample-based app in this category. you can hear the difference in sound quality, equalized very well.
the UI, it's true, is a little difficult at the beginning, certainly something could have been thought of differently. however, if you try to overcome the initial impact, it becomes truly intuitive and in my opinion it gives the sensation of using a hardware machine, even at speed and for jamming.
It eats up a lot of CPU obviously, but my iPad is a bit old.
among the best iOS drum machines unfairly overlooked
I agree. VADrum is a one trick pony but does it very well. UI needs a redesign imo, just put every instrument/controls on one page. It would make it so much more relaxing.
One of my favorite and most used drum machines! If you disable the sequencer it seems to help lower the cpu.
Has anyone compared VaDrum2 to DrumComputer ? I like plugins when they're crossplatform.
I don't plan to use the built in sequencers.
VaDrum2 has the advantage of being a universal purchase and really cheap.
I have VaDrum2 and once messed around with the free version of DrumComputer. DrumComputer has deeper synthesis and possibilities for a wider variety of sounds. VaDrum is a one trick pony, but does it very well, that is emulating the 808/909. That’s what it does and nothing beyond that.
Thanks @Slush , yes now I see they're quite the opposite in complexity, and sound.
From your videos, VaDrum2 sounds really great ! They could actually both coexist in my setup.
VADRum2 SUPPORT!
The support is dead?? No answer!
MY question was:
How can i midi mapping the patterns/scenes? CC#?
Hey, this drum computer are oppsoites really. VAdrum2 is more of an 808/909 classic drumachine. Drumcomputer is full on drum synthesis. Midi mapping on Vadrum? Isn't it just midi learn? Cheers.
I think the manual contains this information. You can download it from this page: http://www.rtmusicsoftware.com/products/vadrum2/
Looks like it provides a method to load presests via program change; I don't know enough about the VADrum sequencer to know if that's useful to you.
dang this thing sounds nice. thanks for the heads up