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AU Sampler with Time Stretching
Do we have any Universal AU’s that can pitch samples without changing the speed? I wouldn’t think it should be that hard to find but it’s looking like there aren’t many options out there.
Edit: I guess I mean repitching/pitch shifting
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SEGments and EGPulse have both time stretch but the quality is not as good as BeatMaker or Cubasis.
DigiStix can time stretch too but not real time and very low quality.
Segments will be updated soon with a better algorithm.
Also loopy pro should be available soon …
I think time stretch means something different here. What I mean by stretching here is the ability to pitch the sample (EG Pulse key mode) without the speed changing. Not sure if there’s a better term for that.
Re-pitch? Pitch shifting?
Pitch scaling
I have heard so many different terms for this but yeah, basically.
Ableton is the answer i’m afraid … or Octatrack, to a certain extent … i don’t know of an app that could do it well…. but i am maybe wrong
Not an AU, but Beatmaker 3 does it well.
good to know 👍
Not AU - but Blocs Waves does it. I use it in my workflow all the time to change a loop from say AmIn to Cminor for example. Only works for minor key though..
"Only works for minor keys" isn't quite right. BlocsWave simply uses the relative minor for naming. It pitch shifts things fine for any material -- you just have to use the minor key for naming. I.e. if something is in C Major, you name it Am in BlocsWave. If it is in G major, you call it Em. But it doesn't really matter.
This.
Pitch scaling: the process of changing the pitch without affecting the speed.
The opposite is Timestretching: the process of changing the speed or duration of an audio signal without affecting its pitch.
Pitch scaling in BM3 is called Livestretch and it can do either high performance mode or high quality mode. It's pretty good actually but I am not quite sure how extreme someone can go.
It's universally called pitch-shifting. The first commercial device for this I think was the Eventide 910. Or you can call it time-stretching, which is the same thing from a different perspective. Obviously you can't change the length/time for realtime audio.
I never heard or read the term 'pitch scaling' for this. As musical scale is not involved at this level.
I hope sEGments gets that new time stretching algorithm soon.
Does BlocsWave work okay with one-shot samples instead of loops?
Don’t know what is the holdup on Auv3-izing Blocs and Co.
Almost certainly, the hold up is that such a venture is likely to cost more than it would earn. Companies that have to pay their employees have to consider whether investing money on a project will be profitable.
As long the IAP soundpacks keep selling they won't do a thing to Blocs other than bug fixes.
Yup.
You can insert Drambo FX in your effect chain and use its pitchshifter. I found it not too bad for this purpose. If you want to go extreme, and go beyond +/-12 semitones, you can add as many instances of the pitchshifter inside Drambo.
Looks like the Samurai upgrade in Koala adds this functionality. Super cool!
Koala, Segments and Neon are all pretty good for this now
Koala is particularly great!
(And loopy pro on the way 😉)
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but for wav files, AudioStretch lets you alter both pitch, in semitone increments, and speed independently of each other over a wide range, and save out loops to AudioShare.
IMO, based on the examples people have posted, I think Koala's time-stretch is quite a bit better than Segments' or Neon's. Segments' is pretty good if one isn't stretching by a lot.
Not AU but beattime has capability. Seems to sound ok with small adjustments…
Apematrix sampler?
It had a good intention but it's a bit 'too buggy' for my taste.
It doesn't stop playback on Velocity 0 (which should be seen as 'note off' according to midi specs) but rather needs a real Note Off to stop playback.
Also it doesn't rewind to start on stop but rather continues from the point where it stopped making it practically un-usable for one-shots...
Works fine for 'loops' and does it's tempo-sync by tuning the sample up/down.
To the @DukeWonder Koala does 'stretching' in keyboard mode for most stretch modes but (modern excluded) which can create some interesting effects, the other modes are more like old-school 'granular stretching'.
We don't have anything like Ableton Simpler, Cubase Sampler Track, or Logic QuickSampler as an AUv3 on iOS/iPads...