[SOLVED!] When a 5th Gen iPad Pro with the M1 processor isn’t enough

LinearLineman

@Edward_Alexander, you might try one of the other SWAM woodwinds in the beta. I used the alto flute on my last track and loved it,

rs2000

@Edward_Alexander said:

@supadom said:
I cannot help with your question but listening to your mix I’d lower the hihat by at least 40%. I bet your mix waveform looks really spiky. I’m only saying it because I know that that frequency has the potential to cause ear fatigue in the listener.

@supadom said:
This is your waveform. If you drastically lower the volume of the hihat you will be able to normalise and maximise the track correctly, otherwise your normalisation will treat you hihat (dark blue) as an average peak and the rest of the spectrum/instruments will remain quiet (lighter blue close to the centre).

Thank you for this, it confirms what I hear in the car vs my headphones and my iLoud monitors: The hats are way too loud.

@OnfraySin said:
Don’t use any kind of Audiokit app when you want a decent and reliable sound.

I can’t wait to get home tonight and confirm this.. I’ve literally been using that House app in everything!!

Sucks.. because that’s the most amazing sounding electromechanical piano!

Not sure if you're willing to do this but if the CPU issue happened to me, I'd consider quick-sampling the high-CPU instrument (Using the Sampler) and work with that version until the final mixdown when I'd drop the original bugger back in.
It sounds complicated but in fact it's a very fast process.
You open the Rec panel, enable REC and hit a keyboard key for each note to record from the AUv3 in front of the Sampler connected to it.
Make sure you hit the velocity level you want (or temporarily replace the "V" output from MIDI to CV by a simple Slider then into a MIDI Note Generator).
You don't need to record every semitone, gaps will be filled automatically.

That sampled version won't likely sound like a perfect copy but it probably works well enough.

Edward_Alexander

@rs2000 said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@supadom said:
I cannot help with your question but listening to your mix I’d lower the hihat by at least 40%. I bet your mix waveform looks really spiky. I’m only saying it because I know that that frequency has the potential to cause ear fatigue in the listener.

@supadom said:
This is your waveform. If you drastically lower the volume of the hihat you will be able to normalise and maximise the track correctly, otherwise your normalisation will treat you hihat (dark blue) as an average peak and the rest of the spectrum/instruments will remain quiet (lighter blue close to the centre).

Thank you for this, it confirms what I hear in the car vs my headphones and my iLoud monitors: The hats are way too loud.

@OnfraySin said:
Don’t use any kind of Audiokit app when you want a decent and reliable sound.

I can’t wait to get home tonight and confirm this.. I’ve literally been using that House app in everything!!

Sucks.. because that’s the most amazing sounding electromechanical piano!

Not sure if you're willing to do this but if the CPU issue happened to me, I'd consider quick-sampling the high-CPU instrument (Using the Sampler) and work with that version until the final mixdown when I'd drop the original bugger back in.
It sounds complicated but in fact it's a very fast process.
You open the Rec panel, enable REC and hit a keyboard key for each note to record from the AUv3 in front of the Sampler connected to it.
Make sure you hit the velocity level you want (or temporarily replace the "V" output from MIDI to CV by a simple Slider then into a MIDI Note Generator).
You don't need to record every semitone, gaps will be filled automatically.

That sampled version won't likely sound like a perfect copy but it probably works well enough.

Interesting. You’re talking about the regular sampler module in Drambo? And not the flexi sampler right?

@LinearLineman said:
@Edward_Alexander, you might try one of the other SWAM woodwinds in the beta. I used the alto flute on my last track and loved it,

I’ve got something uploading for you Mike, I was tinkering with your Duduk tonight…

rs2000

@Edward_Alexander said:

@rs2000 said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@supadom said:
I cannot help with your question but listening to your mix I’d lower the hihat by at least 40%. I bet your mix waveform looks really spiky. I’m only saying it because I know that that frequency has the potential to cause ear fatigue in the listener.

@supadom said:
This is your waveform. If you drastically lower the volume of the hihat you will be able to normalise and maximise the track correctly, otherwise your normalisation will treat you hihat (dark blue) as an average peak and the rest of the spectrum/instruments will remain quiet (lighter blue close to the centre).

Thank you for this, it confirms what I hear in the car vs my headphones and my iLoud monitors: The hats are way too loud.

@OnfraySin said:
Don’t use any kind of Audiokit app when you want a decent and reliable sound.

I can’t wait to get home tonight and confirm this.. I’ve literally been using that House app in everything!!

Sucks.. because that’s the most amazing sounding electromechanical piano!

Not sure if you're willing to do this but if the CPU issue happened to me, I'd consider quick-sampling the high-CPU instrument (Using the Sampler) and work with that version until the final mixdown when I'd drop the original bugger back in.
It sounds complicated but in fact it's a very fast process.
You open the Rec panel, enable REC and hit a keyboard key for each note to record from the AUv3 in front of the Sampler connected to it.
Make sure you hit the velocity level you want (or temporarily replace the "V" output from MIDI to CV by a simple Slider then into a MIDI Note Generator).
You don't need to record every semitone, gaps will be filled automatically.

That sampled version won't likely sound like a perfect copy but it probably works well enough.

Interesting. You’re talking about the regular sampler module in Drambo? And not the flexi sampler right?

Yes. Something like this:

Edward_Alexander

@rs2000 said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@rs2000 said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@supadom said:
I cannot help with your question but listening to your mix I’d lower the hihat by at least 40%. I bet your mix waveform looks really spiky. I’m only saying it because I know that that frequency has the potential to cause ear fatigue in the listener.

@supadom said:
This is your waveform. If you drastically lower the volume of the hihat you will be able to normalise and maximise the track correctly, otherwise your normalisation will treat you hihat (dark blue) as an average peak and the rest of the spectrum/instruments will remain quiet (lighter blue close to the centre).

Thank you for this, it confirms what I hear in the car vs my headphones and my iLoud monitors: The hats are way too loud.

@OnfraySin said:
Don’t use any kind of Audiokit app when you want a decent and reliable sound.

I can’t wait to get home tonight and confirm this.. I’ve literally been using that House app in everything!!

Sucks.. because that’s the most amazing sounding electromechanical piano!

Not sure if you're willing to do this but if the CPU issue happened to me, I'd consider quick-sampling the high-CPU instrument (Using the Sampler) and work with that version until the final mixdown when I'd drop the original bugger back in.
It sounds complicated but in fact it's a very fast process.
You open the Rec panel, enable REC and hit a keyboard key for each note to record from the AUv3 in front of the Sampler connected to it.
Make sure you hit the velocity level you want (or temporarily replace the "V" output from MIDI to CV by a simple Slider then into a MIDI Note Generator).
You don't need to record every semitone, gaps will be filled automatically.

That sampled version won't likely sound like a perfect copy but it probably works well enough.

Interesting. You’re talking about the regular sampler module in Drambo? And not the flexi sampler right?

Yes. Something like this:

Hmm I’ve got some experimentin to do

klownshed

@rs2000 said:

So my plan now, is to take this (as I’ve already dumped it all as an exported audio track) and bring it into CB3 and add the sax parts there.

That's what I'd do.

In fact that's what I do all the time when making music with iOS (only I use Logic on a Mac as my DAW instead of CB3, but the concept is the same).. Once apps such as Drambo have done their job and the main parts have been created, I dump all the stems into the DAW* and carry on there. Committing to audio early has been game changer for me -- i always used to want all MIDI to remain fully editable right up until the mixing stage but these days that way of making music is a non-starter -- mainly due to not me not being young free and single anymore :-)

*I often use BW as an intermediary stage, to jam out song ideas early on the song-making process. I have been thinking about using Drambo for this too; I could load up the loops into Drambo samplers for the backing tracks and use Drambo to create additional parts (and to mangle the audio in the backing tracks too). I've hardly used Drambo since I got it and using it like this would open up a way to gently work my way into the Drambo world.

MisplacedDevelopment

@klownshed said:

@rs2000 said:

So my plan now, is to take this (as I’ve already dumped it all as an exported audio track) and bring it into CB3 and add the sax parts there.

That's what I'd do.

In fact that's what I do all the time when making music with iOS (only I use Logic on a Mac as my DAW instead of CB3, but the concept is the same).. Once apps such as Drambo have done their job and the main parts have been created, I dump all the stems into the DAW* and carry on there. Committing to audio early has been game changer for me -- i always used to want all MIDI to remain fully editable right up until the mixing stage but these days that way of making music is a non-starter -- mainly due to not me not being young free and single anymore :-)

*I often use BW as an intermediary stage, to jam out song ideas early on the song-making process. I have been thinking about using Drambo for this too; I could load up the loops into Drambo samplers for the backing tracks and use Drambo to create additional parts (and to mangle the audio in the backing tracks too). I've hardly used Drambo since I got it and using it like this would open up a way to gently work my way into the Drambo world.

I also like the direct to audio way of working, there is something freeing about it. The problem I bumped into was file sizes with all that audio hanging around (and I like to back everything up to iCloud) but since I have recently jumped on to the Logic bandwagon then I’ll give some more thought to that way of working.

klownshed

@MisplacedDevelopment said:

I also like the direct to audio way of working, there is something freeing about it. The problem I bumped into was file sizes with all that audio hanging around (and I like to back everything up to iCloud) but since I have recently jumped on to the Logic bandwagon then I’ll give some more thought to that way of working.

I save all the loops to iCloud too. The way APFS works, the data shouldn't be duplicated, the file system keeps track of the changes as delta encoding (it only saves the changes of the clone) which reduces the space required. having the loops in iCloud means the OS can offload unused loops if it needs storage, but it would be nice if there were more control over this. You just have to hope it works and iOS gives very little indication of what's happening until you see the download icon next to the filename one day...

Lots of iCloud storage is one of the best IOS investments for me. It's one aspect that Apple don't charge an Apple tax for compared to the competition.

But yeah, it's a pretty good way of working for me. iOS is very important to get ideas started, but I've realised there's absolutely no point for me trying to finish tracks on iOS when Logic is so good (and I've used it for so long it's second nature). Committing iOS ideas to audio also stops me from having loads of unfinished little projects in loads of different apps. I just use whatever app I feel like and export the audio to the pool if I like it. It has the added benefit of me never taxing the iPhone/iPad CPU as I'm not trying to mix and master as I go on iOS. I like separating the various parts of the song making process. Back in the day I used to get bogged down with all the details at too early a stage which got frustrating.

Not having access to tweak every little detail is actually quite liberating. The focus goes back to the song, which is more enjoyable. I don't have any ulterior motives for the tracks once they're done, but I get a nice sense of satisfaction when I 'finish' something even though hardly anybody will ever get to hear any of it :-)

Edward_Alexander

@klownshed said:

@MisplacedDevelopment said:

I also like the direct to audio way of working, there is something freeing about it. The problem I bumped into was file sizes with all that audio hanging around (and I like to back everything up to iCloud) but since I have recently jumped on to the Logic bandwagon then I’ll give some more thought to that way of working.

I save all the loops to iCloud too. The way APFS works, the data shouldn't be duplicated, the file system keeps track of the changes as delta encoding (it only saves the changes of the clone) which reduces the space required. having the loops in iCloud means the OS can offload unused loops if it needs storage, but it would be nice if there were more control over this. You just have to hope it works and iOS gives very little indication of what's happening until you see the download icon next to the filename one day...

Lots of iCloud storage is one of the best IOS investments for me. It's one aspect that Apple don't charge an Apple tax for compared to the competition.

But yeah, it's a pretty good way of working for me. iOS is very important to get ideas started, but I've realised there's absolutely no point for me trying to finish tracks on iOS when Logic is so good (and I've used it for so long it's second nature). Committing iOS ideas to audio also stops me from having loads of unfinished little projects in loads of different apps. I just use whatever app I feel like and export the audio to the pool if I like it. It has the added benefit of me never taxing the iPhone/iPad CPU as I'm not trying to mix and master as I go on iOS. I like separating the various parts of the song making process. Back in the day I used to get bogged down with all the details at too early a stage which got frustrating.

Not having access to tweak every little detail is actually quite liberating. The focus goes back to the song, which is more enjoyable. I don't have any ulterior motives for the tracks once they're done, but I get a nice sense of satisfaction when I 'finish' something even though hardly anybody will ever get to hear any of it :-)

Thank you for this!

Heres the thing with me, and I’ve known about the “commit to audio early” concept for a long time, though I rarely utilize the strategy, but it obviously has a way of coming back to bite me on the ass. See, I cannot sit at my desktop for any length of time anymore. It just gets so uncomfortable and everything starts hurting really bad, then of course who can write music in this condition?

I’ve only ever been a windows guy, so I have this huge Windows desktop (that also doubles as a gaming PC) where I have Ableton Live, Reaper, Etc where I used to do all of my productions, but as the pain started becoming worse, I started producing less and less. Then along comes the iPad and iOS/iPadOS production and it has been a godsend! I can now produce from the couch,
my comfy chair, or wherever I might have my feet propped up.

This has been great for my little jams, but as some projects get bigger, there’s obviously limitations. So, being that I’ve been running into these limitations a little more frequently lately, I have been considering spending a little more money, and either purchase an Apple laptop (a “MacBook”? Sorry, Windows guy here) where I can finally see what all this praise for “Logic” is all about. Either that or a nice Windows tablet like one of the latest Surface models or a super lightweight and thin Windows laptop since I already own Ableton Live 10 for the PC.

I’m leaning more towards the Mac though really, as I’ve been loving the Apple ecosystem where I don’t have to worry about all the things that Windows users have been dealing with all these years, you know, viruses, compatibilities, etc. It really is something with Apple stuff, where everything “Just Works” to coin the infamous phrase.

A MacBook makes total sense too, as I’m already committed to the ecosystem with my iPhone and this brand new M1 iPad Pro, not to mention I also just upgraded my iCloud storage to the 2TB package which combined with my IPP’s 1 TB, gives me plenty of breathing room for now. I do love how apple manages the storage like you said, rather than making actually copies of everything and using up precious storage space.

Anyway, I’ll stop rambling now, but thank you for reinforcing the concept of a better way to produce! Now, I’ve just got to save up a few more pennies.

klownshed

@Edward_Alexander

I’m sure CB3 should do the job just fine? Lots of people mix and master on iOS.

I don’t think you need to spend any more cash unless you want to. I just use Logic as it suits me better (I’ve used it since it first came out!), — I use logic on a MacBook Pro. I have no room for a desktop at home.

If I didn’t have a MacBook I’d be fine using GarageBand or even NS2 (using Slate to trigger loops) to arrange. But I have Logic and it’s so much quicker and easier (for me) there’s no point me trying to use iOS for everything.

A lot of it obviously depends on your ‘baggage’ — I can’t help wanting my DAW to be like Logic and all the iOS DAWs fall short. But if I was a youbg’un with no set ways I’m sure iOS would be all I need.

mrufino1

Try removing the bark filter on the drums as a start. I haven’t used barkfilter but I get the concept. At first, anything that seems like “magic” gets slapped on everything, but once you do that for a while you realize that without really knowing how to tweak it (especially multiband processors) you often wind up with something you thought sounds “Big” but instead Justin sounds splashy with no dimension or punch. So a lot of sound that overtakes the track but has no impact.

Then, just mix your tracks using levels and panning- no eq, no compression, no anything. Maybe some basic high pass and low pass filtering where applicable just to clean something up- but if you’re using electronic sources only choosing your sounds wisely and arranging them wisely probably will mitigate much need for this. Play with that for a while as you hear how things interact.

If you start to hear that certain sounds just won’t sit in place, then use a compressor on a part just to settle it into place, or automate a fader if you’re using something that does that.

See where that gets you.

A couple of books I would highly recommend:

Mixing secrets for the small studio by Mike Senior

The music mixing workbook by Bobby Owsinski

Those 2 books are full of so much helpful information and will benefit you way more than any plug-in, app, or computer purchase. We are using Bobby Owsinski’s book as the textbook for the beginning engineering class I’m teaching this semester.

I hope that was somewhat helpful.

EDIT: Oh, and turn the hi hats down…😂 That is probably solid advice for any mix you ever do anyway!

Edward_Alexander

@klownshed said:
@Edward_Alexander

I’m sure CB3 should do the job just fine? Lots of people mix and master on iOS.

I don’t think you need to spend any more cash unless you want to. I just use Logic as it suits me better (I’ve used it since it first came out!), — I use logic on a MacBook Pro. I have no room for a desktop at home.

If I didn’t have a MacBook I’d be fine using GarageBand or even NS2 (using Slate to trigger loops) to arrange. But I have Logic and it’s so much quicker and easier (for me) there’s no point me trying to use iOS for everything.

A lot of it obviously depends on your ‘baggage’ — I can’t help wanting my DAW to be like Logic and all the iOS DAWs fall short. But if I was a youbg’un with no set ways I’m sure iOS would be all I need.

Well, you know how it is with GAS. There’s always something else I need want..

You’re right, CB3 is fine for what I want to do. I mean, I’m no young’in, (52) and I am set in my ways so to speak as far as how I compose music, but not so much what I require from a DAW. I have Ableton live on my windows desktop, and it does have some cool features, but nothing really I can’t live without.

Edward_Alexander

@mrufino1 said:
Try removing the bark filter on the drums as a start. I haven’t used barkfilter but I get the concept. At first, anything that seems like “magic” gets slapped on everything, but once you do that for a while you realize that without really knowing how to tweak it (especially multiband processors) you often wind up with something you thought sounds “Big” but instead Justin sounds splashy with no dimension or punch. So a lot of sound that overtakes the track but has no impact.

Then, just mix your tracks using levels and panning- no eq, no compression, no anything. Maybe some basic high pass and low pass filtering where applicable just to clean something up- but if you’re using electronic sources only choosing your sounds wisely and arranging them wisely probably will mitigate much need for this. Play with that for a while as you hear how things interact.

If you start to hear that certain sounds just won’t sit in place, then use a compressor on a part just to settle it into place, or automate a fader if you’re using something that does that.

See where that gets you.

A couple of books I would highly recommend:

Mixing secrets for the small studio by Mike Senior

The music mixing workbook by Bobby Owsinski

Those 2 books are full of so much helpful information and will benefit you way more than any plug-in, app, or computer purchase. We are using Bobby Owsinski’s book as the textbook for the beginning engineering class I’m teaching this semester.

I hope that was somewhat helpful.

EDIT: Oh, and turn the hi hats down…😂 That is probably solid advice for any mix you ever do anyway!

Thank you for this! (This is why I love this forum!)

I know what you mean about the magic “Barkfilter” apps. I always hear all this good stuff about them, so I try to use them with recommended settings here and there, but you’re right, sometimes just some basic mixing is all that’s really needed when your sound is already dialed in.

Thanks for the book recommendations too! I’ll have to check those out.

Edward_Alexander

@jonmoore @realdawei @echoopera @supadom @OnfraySin @WTK @bygjohn @ashh @LinearLineman @Svetlovska @BitterGums @rs2000 @klownshed @MisplacedDevelopment @mrufino1

Well, here’s my test results guys.

It was not the Audiokit app. (I removed the House EP and replaced it with something else and still had the same exact CPU/DSP issues! Crackle-fest!)

But I did discover something today that made a night and day difference!

I turned on airplane mode and Do not disturb! just out of curiosity and suddenly all of my crackling problems went away!

I don’t know, somehow recently, I must have allowed all these notifications and stuff like iMessage texts and calls to be coming through to my new iPad…. Evidently this was causing an issue.. keep in mind that I’m currently still on 14.7.1. iPadOS 15 might have some fixes for this.. we’ll see!

So, I’ve got a remix guys. Please let me know how this one sounds, and if the drums are more acceptable now! I figure this is a pretty good way to get some listens anyway, post a half broken piece and let you guys help me shape it into what it should be!

How’s my hats now?

From my video description on youtube:

A proper remix of my previous piece, now with new and improved drums!

New In this version:

Total revamp of all drums. Removed BeatHawk completely. Now using HammerHead Rhythm Station’s “acoustic” drum samples which are sequenced with eleven different patterns in Atom 2!

Removed Barkfilter entirely.

Removed House: Mark I and replaced with “Electric Vintage” with a custom patch (randomized)

Put some actual thought Into the mixing this time lol (that was one thing that was missing from my previous upload!)

Please leave feedback, like, subscribe, and as always,

Thank you for listening!

• Edward ❤️

LinearLineman

Add “solved” to your thread title, Ed.I really liked the part at 1:50 and going forward from there.

Edward_Alexander

@LinearLineman said:
Add “solved” to your thread title, Ed.I really liked the part at 1:50 and going forward from there.

Ah! Good call, and thanks for the affirming listen!🙏

joniqwest

@Edward_Alexander
Love the new mix ! 💪

Edward_Alexander

@joniqwest said:
@Edward_Alexander
Love the new mix ! 💪

Thank you! 🙏

mrufino1

Wow, much clearer! Still too much hat for my taste, but if you like it then keep going where you’re going. Much more definition though, and the drums are in better balance with everything.

rs2000

Hats are fixed IMHO.
I like the relaxed and playful vibe.

If there's one thing I would tweak then it would be a final peaking EQ on track 9 with (roughly) Q=1, f=300Hz and -8dB gain.

ashh

Oh wow, that's a massive piece of information right there. I do not actually have my iPad connected to 4G and I don't have an iPhone but I am thinking about changing both of those things so yeah, gratefully received.

Edward_Alexander

@mrufino1 said:
Wow, much clearer! Still too much hat for my taste, but if you like it then keep going where you’re going. Much more definition though, and the drums are in better balance with everything.

Thanks for listening and providing your indispensable feedback!

Edward_Alexander

@rs2000 said:
Hats are fixed IMHO.
I like the relaxed and playful vibe.

If there's one thing I would tweak then it would be a final peaking EQ on track 9 with (roughly) Q=1, f=300Hz and -8dB gain.

Thank you!

I’m thinking about taking a scoop out of that range somewhere to fit a guitar solo or something in there. Maybe.

Hey, is this “Broken Bass” module one of yours, in the Drambo Wavetable IAP? Whoever made this instrument is an evil genius! Love this thing, though I back off of the glide a little.

Edward_Alexander

@ashh said:
Oh wow, that's a massive piece of information right there. I do not actually have my iPad connected to 4G and I don't have an iPhone but I am thinking about changing both of those things so yeah, gratefully received.

Yup, I’m not saying this is an end all be all fix for everything, but it definitely gave me the extra headroom to make it through a recording without any crackles and pops.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that it seems like I have a lot more headroom also when my iPad is not connected to the hub (where everything else is connected - the Scarlett interface, a KB/M, My DM12 synth (I use as a midi controller kB), My Launchpad Pro mk3, and the HDMI connection to my 27” desktop display)

Montreal_Music

@LinearLineman said:
Only D1 from AudioKit has given me a problem in Cubasis. I seriously doubt The HouseMark1 is the problem (tho maybe in Drambo it is). Electric Vintage from Apesoft is on sale, I think. NSK is a great piece of software.

I almost bought Electric Vintage, but since I heard VTines, I'm just waiting for a sale on VTines. The app sounds incredibly good for a (something like) 35 MB app.

Hmtx

Wi-Fi OFF will always free up some CPU. I remember in early days trying to run 3 apps in Audiobus. my iPad 2 would get audio glitches every 2 minutes exactly. I realized it was Apple checking my email in the background.

I wonder if the new Focus settings in iOS 15 could be set up to fix the issue without having to go fully into Airplane mode. Could be helpful for some of us who use MIDI over Bluetooth or Wi-Fi.

jonmoore

@Montreal_Music I decided to get VTines based on your recommendation and the fact that it has a 41Mb footprint.

My initial take is that it's not an either-or purchase. VTines is brighter to the point that it's easy to make it sound brittle with post-processing. Electric Vintage is softer and warmer and better as a solo instrument (for my taste). The downside of Electric Vintage is that it needs a bit of post-processing for it to cut through a mix.

I'm really happy to have both as you can never have too many EP flavours.

With Electric Vintage currently on offer for less than the price of a skinny latte, I reckon it's an offer too good to miss. The accordion app is surprisingly useful too, especially for some Augustus Pablo style dub shenanigans or Grace Jones 'La Vie En Rosé riffs.

rs2000

@Edward_Alexander said:

@rs2000 said:
Hats are fixed IMHO.
I like the relaxed and playful vibe.

If there's one thing I would tweak then it would be a final peaking EQ on track 9 with (roughly) Q=1, f=300Hz and -8dB gain.

Thank you!

I’m thinking about taking a scoop out of that range somewhere to fit a guitar solo or something in there. Maybe.

Hey, is this “Broken Bass” module one of yours, in the Drambo Wavetable IAP? Whoever made this instrument is an evil genius! Love this thing, though I back off of the glide a little.

You're welcome!
No, that preset is made by "The invisible man", another beta tester 😊

Edward_Alexander

@rs2000 said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@rs2000 said:
Hats are fixed IMHO.
I like the relaxed and playful vibe.

If there's one thing I would tweak then it would be a final peaking EQ on track 9 with (roughly) Q=1, f=300Hz and -8dB gain.

Thank you!

I’m thinking about taking a scoop out of that range somewhere to fit a guitar solo or something in there. Maybe.

Hey, is this “Broken Bass” module one of yours, in the Drambo Wavetable IAP? Whoever made this instrument is an evil genius! Love this thing, though I back off of the glide a little.

You're welcome!
No, that preset is made by "The invisible man", another beta tester 😊

Ah! “[INVIS]” yeah, he’s got a couple that are really good. I really like his “Tines” module as well!

Montreal_Music

@jonmoore said:
@Montreal_Music I decided to get VTines based on your recommendation and the fact that it has a 41Mb footprint.

My initial take is that it's not an either-or purchase. VTines is brighter to the point that it's easy to make it sound brittle with post-processing. Electric Vintage is softer and warmer and better as a solo instrument (for my taste). The downside of Electric Vintage is that it needs a bit of post-processing for it to cut through a mix.

I'm really happy to have both as you can never have too many EP flavours.

With Electric Vintage currently on offer for less than the price of a skinny latte, I reckon it's an offer too good to miss. The accordion app is surprisingly useful too, especially for some Augustus Pablo style dub shenanigans or Grace Jones 'La Vie En Rosé riffs.

Ok, I will buy EV based on your recommendation!