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Oscillator 4 - Saw by Cooperator Design

https://apps.apple.com/app/id1570717041

Description:

Oscillator 4 is a Saw wave synthesizer, playable via MIDI or as an AUv3.
Useful as an educational tool to learn about synthesis parameters such as envelopes and modulation, or as a creative tool when you need a raw saw wave.
Drone mode plays any notes back continuously at the level set by the 'Sustain' knob.
Layer with other apps in the Oscillator series to create rich evolving textures.


Details:
Universal: Yes
Minimum OS version: 13.0
Rated: 0 based on 0 votes

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  • wanna buy... an oscillator shape?

    Improve your productions TODAY without having to study synthesis theory, buy our oscillators pack and supercharge your sounds.

    :D

  • @cokomairena said:
    wanna buy... an oscillator shape?

    Improve your productions TODAY without having to study synthesis theory, buy our oscillators pack and supercharge your sounds.

    :D

    "You need a saw? I got you!"

  • Does anyone know what it sounds like? (apart from the devs). I really haven’t a clue as to whether I want to buy this or not…. even if I can shove it through overdrive and distortion. ‘Raw Saw’…. I like a raw saw 🤔

  • @celtic_elk said:

    @cokomairena said:
    wanna buy... an oscillator shape?

    Improve your productions TODAY without having to study synthesis theory, buy our oscillators pack and supercharge your sounds.

    :D

    "You need a saw? I got you!"

    Ha!

  • Load any Palm Loop oscillator in miRack, output its saw way. Done.

  • @auxmux said:
    Load any Palm Loop oscillator in miRack, output its saw way. Done.

    Same for Drambo.

    The kind of people who's eyes would cross just looking into those apps is who these are targeted at. It seems odd to us, but I can imagine the developer will get some sales out of this, for relatively little effort. No shame in that. B)

  • @robosardine said:
    ‘Raw Saw’…. I like a raw saw 🤔

    You have come to the right place my friend

  • You better buy them all (sine,square,triangle as well) before they become rare collectors items.

  • Some may downplay such an app but I just dropped Triangle into AUM, set it to drone, modulated vibrato depth and speed with Rozeta LFO S&H and ran it through Other Desert Cities and AU3FX:Space. It took a minute to set up and the output was awesome.

  • I just use gr-16 for everrything these days

  • Well, I'm guessing the developer does want to provide a useful tool for pros. I think he has 100% found a good niche to start with, and he's taking the proper steps in the proper order.

    The goal is probably to make the AU oscillator with the lowest CPU usage.
    The only question is, "Can he write it to use less CPU usage than SunVox?"
    And if so, then I'm definitely going to buy all three.

    The choice of parameters is perfect.
    The pricing strategy is perfect.

    He probably wanted to build it with AudioKit first, so that he can get an accurate idea of "How much CPU does AudioKit use, and how much time does it save?"

    Now it's in a usable state, so it's time to go through the App Store's submission process, and see what that's like. Done.

    Next, he continues to tweak the UI. Hopefully with feedback from us.
    The real UI is already slightly different from the screenshot.

    The first clause he writes after the intro is, "Useful as an educational tool."

    Are these meant to be the foundation of the mythical open source library of CPU-optimized code for writing AUs? I think so, because it's easier to market something as an educational tool for coding AND synthesis; "synthesizers have too many knobs for kids to learn them" isn't a big problem, even though this design is the best place to start.

    He hasn't released the source code yet, because he hasn't finished optimizing the code, nor has he commented the code with explanations. Once he does that, he'll have a good reputation among the hardcore users, and they will pay the $6, instead of seeking out an imitation.

    So when his apps ARE copied almost exactly by newer developers, by that time, he'll have a more complex app to sell, and an audience ready to buy it. Very few people will get into AU development, to siphon money from the person who helped them to get their foot in the door.

    He can ask to be credited in the App Store description, and if anyone ignores it, he'll still be earning more sales from people who support his mission, than he would lose from people who are dedicated and nerdy enough to want a modular oscillator AU pack, but not willing to pay $6 for it.

  • @Skyblazer Sounds like you're reading a whole lot into very little. Impressive, tho'.

  • There's an interview with the developer here:

    https://audiokitpro.com/oscillatorseries/

  • Another scam app from Audiokit

    Nothing new

  • wimwim
    edited October 2021

    @OnfraySin said:
    Another scam app from Audiokit

    Nothing new

    That’s an ignorant comment. No, it’s not an app from AudioKit. It’s an app by an independent developer who has made use of the free and open source AudioKit libraries. You could do the same. Would that make it an app from AudioKit? Would that make it a scam? Do you even know what that word means? You don’t even detail what is a “scam” about these apps that clearly explain exactly what they are.

    Acting like a dick is one thing. Acting like an ignorant dick is just … embarrassing.

  • Triangle is free. I’ll give it a whirl. I can actually see a point to this, to create a basic drone etc, but I already have AuGenX for when I want to get really basic, so I won’t be buying the others.

  • edited October 2021

    @OnfraySin said:
    Another scam app from Audiokit

    Nothing new

    Why do you think it is "a scam"?

  • @uncledave said:
    @Skyblazer Sounds like you're reading a whole lot into very little. Impressive, tho'.

    Lol, for real tho. Fun little wormhole there

  • @Simon said:

    @OnfraySin said:
    Another scam app from Audiokit

    Nothing new

    Why do you think it is "a scam"?

    I don't agree that it's a scam. But for a long time, I could assume that any new synthesizer app would have a unique sound.

    I don't know if it's easy to make AudioKit's DSP code more modular and customizable, but it would be welcomed. If it were presented as a prototyping tool or interface builder, rather than "build your own synth", then...it may not reflect their long-term goals, but...that's what I plan to use AudioKit 5 for. AudioKit 7, who knows?

    When asked for his advice to new developers, Jeff's first line is "Humble yourself." but the anonymous interviewer opens with "They're perfect..."

    And considering how simple these apps are, the rest of his advice almost implies that the documentation isn't up to par. Because for Mozaic, we might say, "Start with the manual, read the Wiki, read other people's code. Learn to use TranslateScale, OnMidiInput, and the modulo operator early on. And if you need help, ask here."

    Building with AudioKit was harder than Jeff expected. Mozaic was significantly easier than I expected, to the point where it boosted my pace and confidence too much. Eight hours to finish a prototype, and if there's anything wrong with it, "Here's some code that works, here's how it works." within 48 hours.

    Is the AudioKit team working to reach that point? Probably. It's a much larger project, so it's not fair to compare it to Mozaic. But for a grassroots community project, they're heavy on marketing the results, and less focused on demonstrating the utility to developers.

    When you type "AudioKit Pro" into YouTube, one of the first results should be a timelapse video showing how effortless it is to build an app with AudioKit. Below that, you'd hope to see a bunch of tutorials. But instead? Influencers promoting the 909 app, the only app on my phone where the UI breaks when you turn on the most commonly-used accessibility feature, larger font.

    It's a massive project, and I'd like to get involved. But when I compare the press releases to the GitHub for the example app, I'm worried that Aurelius and Matthew value praise over criticism. It's more likely that they just have a lot on their plate right now, and community engagement has fallen by the wayside. It seems like they're still very generous with their time toward anyone who is committed to using it.
    https://github.com/AudioKit/AUv3-Example-App/issues

    Honestly, it's probably better marketing for AudioKit if Jeff does plan to use it for rapid prototyping and placeholder code. It would show aspiring developers that the target demographic for your final build won't be limited to beginners who have yet to value efficient DSP code and an original sound engine. Imagine having a "List of professional apps that started as AudioKit projects" on the homepage, underneath the timelapse video. If the maker of a continuously-updated, well-designed, CPU-efficient app starts every project with AudioKit, others will follow.

    If the AudioKit team were to blog about their long-term vision and current challenges, I would love to read about it. I see "Apps, Limited Edition, Showcase, Blog" instead of "Learn, Get Involved, Donate, FAQ, Forum."

    Here's the donation link.
    https://opencollective.com/audiokit

    Life is hard, so let's not roast people who are trying to do a good thing for the world.

  • @oat_phipps said:

    @uncledave said:
    @Skyblazer Sounds like you're reading a whole lot into very little. Impressive, tho'.

    Lol, for real tho. Fun little wormhole there

    Thanks bro, I appreciate you.

    To everyone else reading...sorry for being so verbose! :#

  • Exactly - auGENx would seem to be the way to go. A lot of functionality built in

    @Svetlovska said:
    Triangle is free. I’ll give it a whirl. I can actually see a point to this, to create a basic drone etc, but I already have AuGenX for when I want to get really basic, so I won’t be buying the others.

  • edited October 2021

    @Gavinski : Well, I saw it as a challenge… I used the free Triangle wave oscillator to make this:

    (Because triangle waves sound silvery, don’t they?)

    I’ll admit I cracked towards the end, and used a couple of swoopy freestyle unsequenced interventions from Shoom on the final go round, but pretty much 95% of what is on here is that single free Triangle app, sequenced by SnakeBud, turned into full, half and quarter speed File Player loops, then offset and ran against each other, having Paulstretched them quite a bit in AudioStretch first, then run through the usual metric f**k ton of fx. No other synth apps used.

    Special shout out for rymdigare though. Once your vid and @jakoB_haQ’s showed me how to access the LFOs, I began to realise what an absolute star that app is at wavefoldy-crunchy-staticky reverb-ambient smooshiness.

  • As long as I don’t have to pay ‘per tooth’ I’m game

  • @supadom : lol! The free Triangle app is actually about as full featured an app which is just a single waveform can be really, the tremolo speed and depth can take it into interesting places, easy to get something woozy and Lo-Fi going with it. I actually like the app - with all it’s free teeth!

  • @anickt said:
    Some may downplay such an app but I just dropped Triangle into AUM, set it to drone, modulated vibrato depth and speed with Rozeta LFO S&H and ran it through Other Desert Cities and AU3FX:Space. It took a minute to set up and the output was awesome.

    Let’s hear it!

  • edited October 2021

    @NeuM : may I humbly refer the honourable member to an alternative demonstration available 4 entries above this?

  • Nice work as usual! Yes, amazing what u can do with a bit of pitchshifting, timestretching and a handful of fx

  • @Svetlovska said:
    @supadom : lol! The free Triangle app is actually about as full featured an app which is just a single waveform can be really, the tremolo speed and depth can take it into interesting places, easy to get something woozy and Lo-Fi going with it. I actually like the app - with all it’s free teeth!

    Haha, i was just enjoying the banter!! I have all these things and more in Drambo. I know it’s free but the time spent messing around with new apps instead of being productive isn’t.

  • edited October 2021

    @supadom : or you could mess with a new app, and be productive… see above. :)

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