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Introducing the Behringer EDGE

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  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    "In all my time, I've never seen a Behringer analog mixer more than a year old that still had all its channels working."

    Wow, he’s not looked far, that’s utter bull. I have two both well over a decade, working well.

  • edited October 2021

    @u0421793 said:
    I like my Behringer Cat

    Have you seen the price for a real one? I last saw one for sale a few months ago. The touch keyboard was fully working, it had been fully repaired and serviced so it was as good as you're going to get. I believe it was around £2k. Or you can spend £200.

    People waffle on about Behringer, people who should know better. I don't get it. Do they want music to stay in the hands of the wealthy? The privileged? Music is for everyone.

    I also believe that we should not have to pay for knowledge, so that's my ballpark for all this kind of thing.

  • edited October 2021

    @ashh said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I like my Behringer Cat

    Have you seen the price for a real one? I last saw one for sale a few months ago. The touch keyboard was fully working, it had been fully repaired and serviced so it was as good as you're going to get. I believe it was around £2k. Or you can spend £200.

    People waffle on about Behringer, people who should know better. I don't get it. Do they want music to stay in the hands of the wealthy? The privileged? Music is for everyone.

    I also believe that we should not have to pay for knowledge, so that's my ballpark for all this kind of thing.

    I'm not arguing against that. But their knocking off of existing products is what many find distasteful. Just because someone can't afford a DFAM or M32 doesn't mean another company needs to swoop in and bring out a budget copy of it for them. The world doesn't need that. People don't need these products to make music. No one is waiting to make music because they don't have a Moog M32. Making budget knockoffs of contemporary Moog gear is like solving a problem that doesn't exist*. Coming out with the first aggressively affordable pro polysynth (Deepmind) was a great problem solved, however.

    *I could even accept the argument that the SWING is solving a problem in other parts of the world, where affordable MIDI+CV controllers aren't available. Making budget DFAMs and M32s aren't however. Behringer's synth catalogue and global presence is enormous. If someone wanted to make analog synth music in SE Asia, they could do so with anything else Behringer has released.

  • @ashh said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I like my Behringer Cat

    Have you seen the price for a real one? I last saw one for sale a few months ago. The touch keyboard was fully working, it had been fully repaired and serviced so it was as good as you're going to get. I believe it was around £2k. Or you can spend £200.

    People waffle on about Behringer, people who should know better. I don't get it. Do they want music to stay in the hands of the wealthy? The privileged? Music is for everyone.

    I also believe that we should not have to pay for knowledge, so that's my ballpark for all this kind of thing.

    The main difference for me is
    2) the real one is huge, I can’t fit it into where I do my music
    a] midi already in
    [iii] the originals are old and are only going to get older and more failure-prone

    Having said that, I’m on my second B Cat, the first one failed and died (I suspect the power supply did that). Well done and much gratitude to Anderton’s Music for changing it by delivery with no problems.

  • It puzzles me that some people treat a company wanting to make their products with local labor are treated as being intentionally elitist and not for real people...rather than recognized for wanting to support their local economy. I understand wanting to get things as a bargain, but let's at least acknowledge that the bargains come at a cost.

  • As someone who is morbidly poor, I appreciate being able to afford some hardware every now and then

  • edited October 2021

    I wonder if people get upset when they see kit car replicas of porsche 356 speedsters or shelby cobras.
    Or those ars technica sl1200 clones.
    All those Casios lookin’ like Rolex’s.

  • edited October 2021

    Relevant - listen all the way through (only 2m20s long)

  • wimwim
    edited October 2021

    @u0421793 - Oh my ... best punchline ever. 😂

    that totally made my day.

  • @aleyas said:

    @ashh said:

    @u0421793 said:
    I like my Behringer Cat

    Have you seen the price for a real one? I last saw one for sale a few months ago. The touch keyboard was fully working, it had been fully repaired and serviced so it was as good as you're going to get. I believe it was around £2k. Or you can spend £200.

    People waffle on about Behringer, people who should know better. I don't get it. Do they want music to stay in the hands of the wealthy? The privileged? Music is for everyone.

    I also believe that we should not have to pay for knowledge, so that's my ballpark for all this kind of thing.

    I'm not arguing against that. But their knocking off of existing products is what many find distasteful. Just because someone can't afford a DFAM or M32 doesn't mean another company needs to swoop in and bring out a budget copy of it for them. The world doesn't need that. People don't need these products to make music. No one is waiting to make music because they don't have a Moog M32. Making budget knockoffs of contemporary Moog gear is like solving a problem that doesn't exist*. Coming out with the first aggressively affordable pro polysynth (Deepmind) was a great problem solved, however.

    *I could even accept the argument that the SWING is solving a problem in other parts of the world, where affordable MIDI+CV controllers aren't available. Making budget DFAMs and M32s aren't however. Behringer's synth catalogue and global presence is enormous. If someone wanted to make analog synth music in SE Asia, they could do so with anything else Behringer has released.

    No one needs anything except food, clothes and shelter. I mean, if we're going there then I think I've answered this one already.

  • knock-off:
    a copy or imitation, especially of an expensive product.

    Mockbuster:
    A mockbuster (also known as knockbuster) is a film created to exploit the publicity of another major motion picture with a similar title or subject. Mockbusters are often made with a low budget and quick production to maximize profits. Unlike films produced to capitalize on the popularity of a recent release by adopting similar genre or storytelling elements, mockbusters are generally produced concurrently with upcoming films and released direct-to-video at the same time the real film is released. A mockbuster may be similar enough in title and/or packaging that consumers confuse it with the actual film it mimics, but their producers maintain that they are simply offering additional products for consumers who want to watch more films in the same subgenres.

  • edited October 2021

    @knewspeak said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    "In all my time, I've never seen a Behringer analog mixer more than a year old that still had all its channels working."

    Wow, he’s not looked far, that’s utter bull. I have two both well over a decade, working well.

    Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. I've got one that's an original from years ago, over a decade, it's very crackly at points but it all still works. The new one ain't bad either.

    You say that like it's a bad thing, @jolico

  • @ashh said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    "In all my time, I've never seen a Behringer analog mixer more than a year old that still had all its channels working."

    Wow, he’s not looked far, that’s utter bull. I have two both well over a decade, working well.

    Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. I've got one that's an original from years ago, over a decade, it's very crackly at points but it all still works. The new one ain't bad either.

    You say that like it's a bad thing, @jolico

    Some people like that type of stuff.

    What about the great pro mastering engineers?
    What is their opinion on using behringer gear in their studios?

    Would The Prodigy perform live with behringers unironically and not just for pyrotechnics?

    Do audiophiles use behringer headphone amps all year round or only in the winter to get warm?

    When will they copy iPads and produce bPads?

    Serious questions. Need answers.

  • @jolico said:

    @ashh said:

    @knewspeak said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    "In all my time, I've never seen a Behringer analog mixer more than a year old that still had all its channels working."

    Wow, he’s not looked far, that’s utter bull. I have two both well over a decade, working well.

    Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. I've got one that's an original from years ago, over a decade, it's very crackly at points but it all still works. The new one ain't bad either.

    You say that like it's a bad thing, @jolico

    Some people like that type of stuff.

    What about the great pro mastering engineers?
    What is their opinion on using behringer gear in their studios?

    Would The Prodigy perform live with behringers unironically and not just for pyrotechnics?

    Do audiophiles use behringer headphone amps all year round or only in the winter to get warm?

    When will they copy iPads and produce bPads?

    Serious questions. Need answers.

    Behringer is Midas, TC Electronics, Klark Teknic and so on, this technology is used in quite an amount of Behringer gear, SOS and Future Music magazines have given favourable reviews to a lot of the equipment, not mentioning quite a few online reputable sources.

  • Interesting examples, all require cult-like following to succeed.
    Mastering engineers, who spend your 10year budget to fill a 10u rack to put the final 3% in your production.
    Audiophiles who literally only exist to distinguish themselves on the price point.
    B should be just fine producing for the other 99% - maybe one day the 1% will run out of justifications.
    If they would have been around in their current form 30ys ago, I’m pretty sure Prodigy would have used these synths. Just another middle finger to another group, win-win.
    Whoever comes up with a viable iPad replacement, will poach a nice chunk of apples pie... apple works hard these days making sure that it doesn’t even have to come necessarily for half price, or that half price feels like a bargain.

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