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  • jsmonzanijsmonzani

    Ooh yes! This will bring the features I was missing from the start! 😍 Before Christmas seems pretty soon too!!

  • ghost_forestsghost_forests

    @joegrant413 said:
    Left Facebook years ago, and haven’t looked back.

    Same, ten years ago now and I haven’t missed it a second

  • RajahPRajahP

    @gregsmith said:

    Piano roll and automation? 🤤

    I'm ready.... Looks Fab...

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    Any news?

  • mikewbmikewb

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Any news?

    I think he posted on Facebook that he was hoping to release the update before Christmas, however due to family and other issues it was most likely going to be postponed by a few weeks. Looking forward to it as well!

  • rs2000rs2000

    @mikewb said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Any news?

    I think he posted on Facebook that he was hoping to release the update before Christmas, however due to family and other issues it was most likely going to be postponed by a few weeks. Looking forward to it as well!

    It's still under heavy development.
    A couple of new features require some UI changes to keep Drambo fun and straightforward to use. We're trying and discussing different concepts in the beta team to satisfy different possible workflow preferences as good as possible.
    That takes a lot of time.

    Thanks for your patience guys!

  • mikewbmikewb

    @rs2000 said:

    @mikewb said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Any news?

    I think he posted on Facebook that he was hoping to release the update before Christmas, however due to family and other issues it was most likely going to be postponed by a few weeks. Looking forward to it as well!

    It's still under heavy development.
    A couple of new features require some UI changes to keep Drambo fun and straightforward to use. We're trying and discussing different concepts in the beta team to satisfy different possible workflow preferences as good as possible.
    That takes a lot of time.

    Thanks for your patience guys!

    Cool. Thanks. I’m sure it will be worth the wait.

  • tahichetahiche

    @aleyas said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @aleyas said:

    @supadom said:

    @clowm said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    I’ve known how to use the step sequencer’s velocity settings, but always find myself using Atom’s velocity features. “Velocity chaos” is great for adding that humanized feel. I’m assuming Drambo’s new piano roll will have similar features for setting random velocities for groups of notes?

    There’s a Humanize module for that in Drambo and you can p-lock it’s parameters for any note 😊

    You can also place a midi retrig module modulated by graphic modulator to get an occasional double or triple note giving it more variation.

    Waveshaping the time signal routed into velocity is also a fun one ;)

    Indeed, the time signal is highly underestimated 👍🏼

    It's one of my favorite mod sources =)
    With some sample and holds and a wave shaped time signal you can build some beautiful deterministic sequences

    Any video demo of this so I can see what you’re talking about?. Sounds interesting but I’m clueless.

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant
    edited January 2022

    @tahiche said:

    @aleyas said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @aleyas said:

    @supadom said:

    @clowm said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    I’ve known how to use the step sequencer’s velocity settings, but always find myself using Atom’s velocity features. “Velocity chaos” is great for adding that humanized feel. I’m assuming Drambo’s new piano roll will have similar features for setting random velocities for groups of notes?

    There’s a Humanize module for that in Drambo and you can p-lock it’s parameters for any note 😊

    You can also place a midi retrig module modulated by graphic modulator to get an occasional double or triple note giving it more variation.

    Waveshaping the time signal routed into velocity is also a fun one ;)

    Indeed, the time signal is highly underestimated 👍🏼

    It's one of my favorite mod sources =)
    With some sample and holds and a wave shaped time signal you can build some beautiful deterministic sequences

    Any video demo of this so I can see what you’re talking about?. Sounds interesting but I’m clueless.

    No demos of new stuff allowed at this point as the final design of several new elements is still under review. Hate to say ‘it’ll be worth the wait!’ but it’ll be worth the wait.

    (But if you were asking for something that could already be done, then yay!)

  • RajahPRajahP

    @rs2000 said:

    @mikewb said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Any news?

    I think he posted on Facebook that he was hoping to release the update before Christmas, however due to family and other issues it was most likely going to be postponed by a few weeks. Looking forward to it as well!

    It's still under heavy development.
    A couple of new features require some UI changes to keep Drambo fun and straightforward to use. We're trying and discussing different concepts in the beta team to satisfy different possible workflow preferences as good as possible.
    That takes a lot of time.

    Thanks for your patience guys!

    Hope Midi Import/Export is considered..

  • rs2000rs2000

    @RajahP said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @mikewb said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Any news?

    I think he posted on Facebook that he was hoping to release the update before Christmas, however due to family and other issues it was most likely going to be postponed by a few weeks. Looking forward to it as well!

    It's still under heavy development.
    A couple of new features require some UI changes to keep Drambo fun and straightforward to use. We're trying and discussing different concepts in the beta team to satisfy different possible workflow preferences as good as possible.
    That takes a lot of time.

    Thanks for your patience guys!

    Hope Midi Import/Export is considered..

    Considered indeed but not the highest priority since recording patterns and exporting MIDI with LK hosted inside Drambo is easy enough.

    If you want to record multiple tracks at once, you can merge the MIDI data using the "MIDI Mixer" module in front of LK.

  • yonhorizonyonhorizon

    @rs2000 said:

    @RajahP said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @mikewb said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Any news?

    I think he posted on Facebook that he was hoping to release the update before Christmas, however due to family and other issues it was most likely going to be postponed by a few weeks. Looking forward to it as well!

    It's still under heavy development.
    A couple of new features require some UI changes to keep Drambo fun and straightforward to use. We're trying and discussing different concepts in the beta team to satisfy different possible workflow preferences as good as possible.
    That takes a lot of time.

    Thanks for your patience guys!

    Hope Midi Import/Export is considered..

    Considered indeed but not the highest priority since recording patterns and exporting MIDI with LK hosted inside Drambo is easy enough.

    If you want to record multiple tracks at once, you can merge the MIDI data using the "MIDI Mixer" module in front of LK.

    Dont think it is a serious option to use lk like this. It is not so obvious and not everyone want to make workarounds like this. This is a midi sequencer, why would
    I want to compromise its stability and use another aequencer inside? I think that is one one the pitfalls of ios production. Everyone knows its not solid to use lot of apps.

  • tahichetahiche

    @Michael_R_Grant said:

    @tahiche said:

    @aleyas said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @aleyas said:

    @supadom said:

    @clowm said:

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    I’ve known how to use the step sequencer’s velocity settings, but always find myself using Atom’s velocity features. “Velocity chaos” is great for adding that humanized feel. I’m assuming Drambo’s new piano roll will have similar features for setting random velocities for groups of notes?

    There’s a Humanize module for that in Drambo and you can p-lock it’s parameters for any note 😊

    You can also place a midi retrig module modulated by graphic modulator to get an occasional double or triple note giving it more variation.

    Waveshaping the time signal routed into velocity is also a fun one ;)

    Indeed, the time signal is highly underestimated 👍🏼

    It's one of my favorite mod sources =)
    With some sample and holds and a wave shaped time signal you can build some beautiful deterministic sequences

    Any video demo of this so I can see what you’re talking about?. Sounds interesting but I’m clueless.

    No demos of new stuff allowed at this point as the final design of several new elements is still under review. Hate to say ‘it’ll be worth the wait!’ but it’ll be worth the wait.

    (But if you were asking for something that could already be done, then yay!)

    I’m talking about these weird quantum-Drambo techniques:

    With some sample and holds and a wave shaped time signal you can build some beautiful deterministic sequences
    Waveshaping the time signal routed into velocity is also a fun one ;)

    I have no idea of what any of this means 🤓. I’m curious. I believe it’s stuff that’s already there.

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited January 2022

    @tahiche Start with an oscilloscope connected to the track's time output. It's a "voltage" that represents the current pattern playback position, starting from zero at each pattern start.
    Here, I've added a Graphic Shaper to modify the signal to something weird.

    The idea is to hack the time signal in some way before routing it into any module that uses the time signal (sequencer modules for example) in order to get creative.

  • rs2000rs2000

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited January 2022

    @rs2000 said:

    @RajahP said:

    @rs2000 said:

    @mikewb said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Any news?

    I think he posted on Facebook that he was hoping to release the update before Christmas, however due to family and other issues it was most likely going to be postponed by a few weeks. Looking forward to it as well!

    It's still under heavy development.
    A couple of new features require some UI changes to keep Drambo fun and straightforward to use. We're trying and discussing different concepts in the beta team to satisfy different possible workflow preferences as good as possible.
    That takes a lot of time.

    Thanks for your patience guys!

    Hope Midi Import/Export is considered..

    Considered indeed but not the highest priority since recording patterns and exporting MIDI with LK hosted inside Drambo is easy enough.

    If you want to record multiple tracks at once, you can merge the MIDI data using the "MIDI Mixer" module in front of LK.

    Would be nice to import a midi clip, transpose, re-sequence with probability and all that good stuff.. not much step sequencers do this… can only imagine…

  • RajahPRajahP
    edited January 2022


    Sooooo?

    Hopefully sooon…

  • LorichsLorichs

    @RajahP said:

    Sooooo?

    Hopefully sooon…

    Uuuuhhhhm. It looks so nice.

  • SamuSamu

    @Lorichs said:

    Uuuuhhhhm. It looks so nice.

    And that's already a relatively old screenshot :sunglasses:

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @Samu said:

    @Lorichs said:

    Uuuuhhhhm. It looks so nice.

    And that's already a relatively old screenshot :sunglasses:

    Yep, that screenshot was posted on the first page of this thread.

  • RajahPRajahP

    @Samu said:

    @Lorichs said:

    Uuuuhhhhm. It looks so nice.

    And that's already a relatively old screenshot :sunglasses:

    Any additions would just be.... Cherry...

  • jolicojolico

    Will it be able to do the following?

    • Export synchronized loops
    • Export songs that begin at the start of the audio file
    • Export 24bit 48kHz
    • Record synced audio of live performance (like AUM)
    • Record 24bit 48kHz audio for at least 10 minutes duration
    • Use samples directly from other iOS folders without “importing”

    If none of the above is possible, could it at least be iaa compatible so that I can record Drambo’s output in AUM (without sacrificing Drambo’s AuV3 hosting abilities)

  • rototomrototom

    ...holding back an update for too long could lead to constipation with developer and/or beta team!

  • supadomsupadom

    @rototom said:
    ...holding back an update for too long could lead to constipation with developer and/or beta team!

    It isn’t being held back for the sake of it. We’ve been trying different UI solutions for the last 2 months or so. It takes time to get things right.

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @jolico said:
    Will it be able to do the following?

    • Export synchronized loops
    • Export songs that begin at the start of the audio file
    • Export 24bit 48kHz
    • Record synced audio of live performance (like AUM)
    • Record 24bit 48kHz audio for at least 10 minutes duration
    • Use samples directly from other iOS folders without “importing”

    If none of the above is possible, could it at least be iaa compatible so that I can record Drambo’s output in AUM (without sacrificing Drambo’s AuV3 hosting abilities)

    • what is synchronised loop?
    • afaik, can be done with the current AppStore version - loops or songs can be exported
    • 32bit @ the rate your interface is running
    • yes
    • yes, as per previous two answers combined
    • no
  • jolicojolico

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @jolico said:
    Will it be able to do the following?

    • Export synchronized loops
    • Export songs that begin at the start of the audio file
    • Export 24bit 48kHz
    • Record synced audio of live performance (like AUM)
    • Record 24bit 48kHz audio for at least 10 minutes duration
    • Use samples directly from other iOS folders without “importing”

    If none of the above is possible, could it at least be iaa compatible so that I can record Drambo’s output in AUM (without sacrificing Drambo’s AuV3 hosting abilities)

    • what is synchronised loop?
    • afaik, can be done with the current AppStore version - loops or songs can be exported
    • 32bit @ the rate your interface is running
    • yes
    • yes, as per previous two answers combined
    • no

    By “synchronized loop”, I mean an audio loop that starts from the beginning of the pattern and stops right before the beginning of the next cycle.
    With the current version of drambo, most exported loop audio files start from somewhere in the middle of the pattern.

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @jolico said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @jolico said:
    Will it be able to do the following?

    • Export synchronized loops
    • Export songs that begin at the start of the audio file
    • Export 24bit 48kHz
    • Record synced audio of live performance (like AUM)
    • Record 24bit 48kHz audio for at least 10 minutes duration
    • Use samples directly from other iOS folders without “importing”

    If none of the above is possible, could it at least be iaa compatible so that I can record Drambo’s output in AUM (without sacrificing Drambo’s AuV3 hosting abilities)

    • what is synchronised loop?
    • afaik, can be done with the current AppStore version - loops or songs can be exported
    • 32bit @ the rate your interface is running
    • yes
    • yes, as per previous two answers combined
    • no

    By “synchronized loop”, I mean an audio loop that starts from the beginning of the pattern and stops right before the beginning of the next cycle.
    With the current version of drambo, most exported loop audio files start from somewhere in the middle of the pattern.

    Just tested here (on current beta), and it works the way you described. So it definitely should work on the coming version. This is the first time I’ve seen a report about loop export misbehaving and never experienced anything like that with earlier versions either. Would you mind trying to export a loop with Ableton Link turned off and on, does the issue occur in both occasions? (it may be some kind of syncing issue)

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander
    edited January 2022

    You know, in the menu, there’s “export” then just a few lines down, there’s “export audio”. If you use the later, you can export the whole “song”, or just the current pattern.

    I’ve never had a problem with it. The exported material starts right at the beginning as expected.

    Are y’all using the “export audio” option?

    @jolico @0tolerance4silence

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    @Edward_Alexander said:
    You know, in the menu, there’s “export” then just a few lines down, there’s “export audio”. If you use the later, you can export the whole “song”, or just the current pattern.

    I’ve never had a problem with it. The exported material starts right at the beginning as expected.

    Are y’all using the “export audio” option?

    @jolico @0tolerance4silence

    Yes, when I’m talking about options in the current public version, I’m referring to ‘Export audio’ feature.
    On top of that the upcoming version will bring additional ways to capture audio - hint is the added transport button on the leaked pics.

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited January 2022

    @jolico said:

    @0tolerance4silence said:

    @jolico said:
    Will it be able to do the following?

    • Export synchronized loops
    • Export songs that begin at the start of the audio file
    • Export 24bit 48kHz
    • Record synced audio of live performance (like AUM)
    • Record 24bit 48kHz audio for at least 10 minutes duration
    • Use samples directly from other iOS folders without “importing”

    If none of the above is possible, could it at least be iaa compatible so that I can record Drambo’s output in AUM (without sacrificing Drambo’s AuV3 hosting abilities)

    • what is synchronised loop?
    • afaik, can be done with the current AppStore version - loops or songs can be exported
    • 32bit @ the rate your interface is running
    • yes
    • yes, as per previous two answers combined
    • no

    By “synchronized loop”, I mean an audio loop that starts from the beginning of the pattern and stops right before the beginning of the next cycle.
    With the current version of drambo, most exported loop audio files start from somewhere in the middle of the pattern.

    No need to wait for the update, you can do this already by using the Flexi Sampler:

    In this mode, the REC button acts as an "arm recording" button that triggers exactly at the next pattern cycle. Works for rec. start and stop in sync.

    PS: If you place a Flexi at the end of the Main track, you can route any audio from any track to it, or even create an independent sub mix of all tracks just for recording.

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