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Video...Oscilab Demo and Tutorial
I like this a lot, and for a first version release it work very well, needs AB, but does have Audiopaste and once you have done a mixdown you can "Open In"
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Very comprehensive, as ever Doug. Not sure if you mentioned that you can tune, pan etc., each instrument inside a drum kit and some preset drum tracks are also available to get you started.
Another great video, Doug!
Thanks, and yeah I did forget to mention a couple of things, but I think I covered most of it. I really should have bullet points :-)
I guess you can't cover everything but I was pleased to find that you can tweak the settings for each track inside a drum kit. I knew I would love this app but I have been pleasantly surprised just how good it actually is. It's great to have you back Doug :-)
can the tracks be of different lengths like one 2bar and another 3bars etc...?
and what is the extent of the automation if there is any?
Thanks Doug! Can't wait to watch this later - demos of any kind are especially appreciated for this type of app.
@Trueyorky - That's great that you can tune the drums and make other changes to them; one of the many features I'm sure that are in there that I haven't had the time to unearth yet!
People are way to fast to beat up on new apps, particularly ones like this one where you can't fully appreciate what it does after only 15 minutes of using it, let alone by looking at a feature list. We all like AudioBus, but so long as there is some workable universal method of exporting your work in the 1.0 release, I'm cool with that as a starting point.
Oscilab doesn't have the best drum machine, synth, or samples, but it does have an interface all of its own that "borrows" aspects of Different Drummer, Virtual ANS, and dot-Melody and puts them together in neat package that will change the way you create musical content. I don't see what's unfair about that at all for $4.99.
Also, I'm on the "venerable" iPad2 and it actually seems to load and run quite well.
i don't recall anyone saying that it was unfair at the price of $4.99 my mistake if I missed that comment, but I would like to say that I'm a little weary of the '1.0 release' comments.
It's a slippery slope imho. an app shouldn't be released until it's ready for release whether it be a 2 dollar app or a $200 app, just my opinion but I don't even know where that 'it's a 1.0 release so it's ok to be less complete' concept came from. I'm not saying that oscilab is incomplete I don't know if the dev had plans for ever putting anything else in it and there is absolutely nothing under the sun wrong with an app continuing to develop and grow, it's just a little weird when i hear people say it's ok for an app to not have this or that just because it's a 1.0 release as I don't know what they are judging by or where they are getting the notion from..... and no offense to you Stormjh1 you just reminded me of something I've always wondered.
@kobamoto - No offense taken! What I meant by the "1.0" comment was how well planned out and executed this release iteration of the app is. Nothing more. So, actually, you could interpret that as the exact opposite of the "slippery slope" concern - I'm actually impressed with the amount of functional content that's already here. To me, it's a lot more reasonable to expect an app developer to add AudioBus or IAA compatibility in a later update than it is to expect wholesale improvements to how the app works or what content is provided.
Compare an app like this to another app I love, SeekBeats, which sells for $3 more. SeekBeats is undeniably cool and unique as synth drum engine, and it has AudioBus. But it also lack basic things you would expect it to have, like ACP or the ability to sound out an instrument with a pad when you aren't actively playing through the pattern. There's also some basic things about how the interface works that I don't like, but at the same time, I didn't buy the app with the expectation that they would ever change.
Not saying it's better or worse, but an app like Oscilab is far more ambitious in what it tries to put together, and I think they mostly got it right. I can wait for something like AB support. If 4 months pass and we don't have it, then yeah, I'll be annoyed and bordering on pissed, but not betrayed.
@kobamoto +1 for different Length like 3 bars or 3/4
Thanks for the video Mister Doug. Appreciate the effort and the insight.
You can change the length of bars, but only like this, 1,2,4,or 8, but can do that independently for eack of the six tracks or globally.
ok thanks Doug, shame that you can't do 3s 5s or 7s but very cool interface none the less
@ StormJH1 I know just what you mean, seekbeats is my fav drum app on iOS and I'm annoyed by the same things you are lol.
1.0 is an initial release; thinking software should be 'complete' when it hits 1.0 seems kind of archaic to me and sort of missing part of what makes software cool. Cars have to be feature complete when they ship (and they cost a lot of money!).
A software 1.0 just needs to deliver value for the price and the value can be extended over time. If something doesn't seem valuable at 1.0, fair enough, don't buy it. But if all developers waited to release software until it was feature complete, we would still probably be booting WordPerfect from floppy disks.
Ship something useful and iterate in public. Hasn't always been that way but most software development has been leaning that way for the last 10 years. It takes a colossal investment to ship a big bad bells and whistles laden 1.0. App store economics don't really support that sort of investment, generally. A single developer with an idea and some skills riffing in his or her free time can't really afford that sort of investment either. Auria came out of the gate with big bad pro features and but cost 50 bucks and development was subsidized by WML's existing desktop product line. Cubasis the same. They were useful and provided value on day one and still yet, they have both added considerable value over time.
I think a lot of the "... for a 1.0..." comments on Oscilab are from people who consciously or subconsciously embrace that 'ship something useful' ethos and are impressed by the amount of value presented in this particular 1.0. I know I am.
I didn't mean everlastingly complete
but I see your point.
Spot on. Well said Will.
Yeah, @syrupcore said it much better than I did. You can cite numerous examples of apps that took a HUGE jump in usefulness after an update. Caustic 3.1 is a great example of that. There were people who wouldn't touch it for months because it had no AudioBus, but it was actually an extremely deep and useful music creation app, even before the massive update.
I don't think anyone was even talking about AB or IAA when they talk about lack of features. We're talking the synth lacking in almost any shaping capabilities. And comparing this with v1 of caustic seems a bit far fetched since the latter has always had a big brother on a PC.
Also I seem to remember it was you who wanted some presets for the synth. Well, the synth is so simplistic there wouldn't be much point. You have a few basic waveforms, blend and option of putting both oscillators through fm or ring mod treatment with no control over intensity. You can probably dial this or that patch that you like quite easily.