Is there a cheap SysEx send/receive to hardware app?

oat_phipps

See title. All I can find is SysEx base, and it’s 10 bucks with unfavorable reviews. I feel like something like this should be available for free or a pittance, but my searches haven’t panned out.

ipadbeatmaking

Would StreamByter work?

oat_phipps

@ipadbeatmaking said:
Would StreamByter work?

Had a look and couldn’t find any options like that in the menus. If you can do it in it, it seems beyond my tiny bit of knowledge.

uncledave

@ipadbeatmaking said:
Would StreamByter work?

Yes, StreamByter would work. And you can host in Audiobus or AUM in order to route it to the interface. However, it cannot read data from files, and has no built-in checksum calculation as might be required for long messages, like patches. It would depend on what the SysEx messages are, whether they can be pre-defined, etc.

oat_phipps

@uncledave said:

@ipadbeatmaking said:
Would StreamByter work?

Yes, StreamByter would work. And you can host in Audiobus or AUM in order to route it to the interface. However, it cannot read data from files, and has no built-in checksum calculation as might be required for long messages, like patches. It would depend on what the SysEx messages are, whether they can be pre-defined, etc.

Yeah it’s for patches transfer, both ways. I’m guessing since you said it cant read data from files that it cannot let me dump my program banks into the app and save them for later access.

MisplacedDevelopment

Something like this:

If load
Send F0 01 02 F7
End

This will send the sysex once when you install the script using the “Install rules” button. You just need to connect StreamByter to wherever in AUM.

Edit: ah, I see you need to dump from a file so that won’t work.

oat_phipps

@MisplacedDevelopment said:
Something like this:

If load
Send F0 01 02 F7
End

This will send the sysex once when you install the script using the “Install rules” button. You just need to connect StreamByter to wherever in AUM.

Cool, thanks. Nothin doing with receiving a preset dump from synth and saving a file backup though?

wim

Off the wall idea: I think Atom2 can receive and record sysex, then play it back, maybe even export to a midi file.

Before I bother testing, is that hackaround anything you'd even be interested in if it did work?

benlefoe

@oat_phipps said:
See title. All I can find is SysEx base, and it’s 10 bucks with unfavorable reviews. I feel like something like this should be available for free or a pittance, but my searches haven’t panned out.

I know! This really should exist as an app! I wonder if the dev of Helium could add it as an IAP option…

oat_phipps

@wim said:
Off the wall idea: I think Atom2 can receive and record sysex, then play it back, maybe even export to a midi file.

Before I bother testing, is that hackaround anything you'd even be interested in if it did work?

I appreciate the offer but save yourself the trouble and time. I’ll just use a friends PC next visit.

AlmostAnonymous

Mozaic will do it if you have that, but it depends on file size of sysex you are trying to send.
You also cant slow down the transfer if you need to.

I use sysex base heavily and I have no issues with it.

AlmostAnonymous

@AlmostAnonymous said:
Mozaic will do it if you have that, but it depends on file size of sysex you are trying to send. No reading from files tho...have to copy paste the sysex string into an array.
You also cant slow down the transfer if you need to.

I use sysex base heavily and I have no issues with it.

palms

yeah, I really would love to see a simple sysex librarian in Auv3 form. Would be so helpful!

Haven't had many problems with sysex base, but it'd be great to be able to trigger things within Aum or Drambo, or whatever Daw of choice.

rs2000

@oat_phipps said:
See title. All I can find is SysEx base, and it’s 10 bucks with unfavorable reviews. I feel like something like this should be available for free or a pittance, but my searches haven’t panned out.

When I've needed it years ago, Sysex Base has worked for me.
I had an issue once (don't remember exactly what it was) and the developer fixed it right away.
Today I'd use Drambo plus Streambyter. Yeah, Streambyter is cryptic but so are SysEx messages and they're a great team 😄

I haven't used Streambyter to read SysEx dumps though. YMMV.

Here's a thread on the Audeonic board that shows some code to read SysEx (for the die-hards):
https://audeonic.boards.net/thread/881/converting-sysex-patch-separate-control

qryss

I might be tempted to make something to do this (no promises!).

Sure, something to read files and send them as sysex - or to receive sysex and save it as files - but what about manual input? How would you expect to enter sysex? Any ideas or suggestions?

Telefunky

It highly depends on gear... if you wanna mess with vintage midi devices it can be like opening Pandora‘s box.
I can confirm for a Casio VZ8M and a Kawai XD-5 and I‘d gladly pay 10bucks for a reliable solution
(related to Sysex Base)

uncledave

@qryss said:
I might be tempted to make something to do this (no promises!).

Sure, something to read files and send them as sysex - or to receive sysex and save it as files - but what about manual input? How would you expect to enter sysex? Any ideas or suggestions?

One catch you need to be aware of is that any serious sysex state saving is going to include a checksum, to verify the data is received correctly. For instance, DX7 cartridge files use CRC-16. This is included in the saved file, so it's easy to send. But you'd need to check it on receipt. I've done this using perl on my PC (built-in CRC-16 function). And the ins/outs of the specific format will vary with each device; not much commonality, since they are exclusive to each manufacturer/device.