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Dear Eventide and Kemper: Go the distance on ubiquitous products

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  • edited November 2021

    So I played THU Overloud in standalone mode for a while, mostly using rigs from the American collection. It sounds and feels great. I probably prefer the results more than my Nembrini apps.

    It's just hard to forget that when it crashes it can crash so hard that I'm just sitting there waiting for my iPad to unfreeze before I can reset it. And other times it blows up only itself.

    I know software and hardware which are moving targets, and hopefully the reliability won't be matter for much longer.

  • @joegrant413 said:
    Btw, in the case of Kemper, if they don’t reach out to the mobile market, other people will. And apparently companies like THU and GElabs have already started. They could also brand this kind of mobile experience differently if they don’t want to knock down or cannibalize their hardware market too much.

    What would the incentive be? Invest a lot of resources (= money) in order to bring a product to a market where developers struggle to earn a meaningful profit?

  • @joegrant413 said:
    So I played THU Overloud in standalone mode for a while, mostly using rigs from the American collection. It sounds and feels great. I probably prefer the results more than my Nembrini apps.

    It's just hard to forget that when it crashes it can crash so hard that I'm just sitting there waiting for my iPad to unfreeze before I can reset it. And other times it blows up only itself.

    I know software and hardware which are moving targets, and hopefully the reliability won't be matter for much longer.

    That is so unusual. I've literally never had TH-U crash my (iPad 2018), and I use it a lot. It might be worth spending some time to see what is making it so unstable.

  • I’ve had an H9 Max for years. I bought it for my guitar, but ended up using it almost-permanently as a spring reverb. Then I started using it on synths, and I love it. I currently have it in the CUE loop of my Octatrack.

    I do like the app, but it keeps losing connection on my iPad running iOS 15. Still works great with my old first-gen iPad mini though. Yes, I still have one.

    Also neat is that there’s an Eventide H9 controller device for Ableton, which lets you automate it.

  • Note to self to contact THU. Again, the vast majority of my apps, large or small, new or old, are stable.

    Regarding Eventide factor algorithms and synths, there’s a few good YouTubes out there showing them used together. One nice one shows Nick Batt with the Factor hardware pedals.

  • edited November 2021

    @espiegel123 said:

    @joegrant413 said:
    So I played THU Overloud in standalone mode for a while, mostly using rigs from the American collection. It sounds and feels great. I probably prefer the results more than my Nembrini apps.

    It's just hard to forget that when it crashes it can crash so hard that I'm just sitting there waiting for my iPad to unfreeze before I can reset it. And other times it blows up only itself.

    I know software and hardware which are moving targets, and hopefully the reliability won't be matter for much longer.

    That is so unusual. I've literally never had TH-U crash my (iPad 2018), and I use it a lot. It might be worth spending some time to see what is making it so unstable.

    @joegrant413 Yes plenty on the forum use th-u with zero issues. I assume you’re running the latest app update and using as AUv3, and are you on iOS 14 or 15? There have been occasional temporary issues when the app or OS updates, such as IR loading making a crazy noise, or sample rate miscommunication, but these are resolved very quickly. A big draw of apps like th-u and Nembrini is how stable they are.

    It would be great if you could record a video capture on your device and try to catch the crash or bug in action. Then we can help, or at least try to describe it more specifically and show your settings. Also, Overloud support is quick and helpful, but they’ll also ask you for a video.

    Also, have you tried reinstalling the app?

  • Eventide did a smart move when they disovered the signal processing capabilities of ARM CPUs and built their H9000 flagship unit around them.
    The huge portfolio of algorithms was ported to a cheap mass-market chip which came with high energy efficiency as an additional bonus.
    This resulted in 1 common (processing) codebase for 19“, mobile devices and floor pedals with „only“ the i/o and user interaction platform specific.

    Btw Ch. Kemper did the very same around Y2K when Access Music sold their Virus-A plugin for ProTools TDM (the synth and the DSP cards used the same DSP chip).
    He was once asked why the plugin sold for almost the same price as the hardware.
    Answer: the output is absolutely identical, but in PT you can run 8 instances of the synth... ;)

  • edited November 2021

    Once I discern a pattern to the crashes, I’ll try a video because right now all I can say is it happens more when I am running AUM and using THU as in AUV3 node. I’m also running the latest iOS 14 version. Haven’t gone to 15 yet.

    Btw, here’s someone comparing Kemper to iOS freebie GE Labs.

  • @joegrant413 said:
    Once I discern a pattern to the crashes, I’ll try a video because right now all I can say is it happens more when I am running AUM and using THU as in AUV3 node. I’m also running the latest iOS 14 version. Haven’t gone to 15 yet.

    Btw, here’s someone comparing Kemper to iOS freebie GE Labs.

    I was running iOS 14.8 until very recently. What else are you running alongside TH-U?

  • It may be that it was crashing in AUM sessions when I had other guitar apps like Nembrini in the same session. But just using one at a time.

    My recollection is it would also happen when I was switching to the rig manager.

  • @joegrant413 said:
    It may be that it was crashing in AUM sessions when I had other guitar apps like Nembrini in the same session. But just using one at a time.

    My recollection is it would also happen when I was switching to the rig manager.

    Even that is unusual -- I run TH-U alongside Nembrini a lot (usually when trying to figure out which is going to get the sound I want in a certain context) -- look at what else you have loaded too -- are these AUM sessions with a lot of plugins that might be using up a lot of memory?

  • Hmmm.... Thaknfer (sp?) Is a hog isn't it?

  • There was a great interview snippet with Christoph Kemper included in the Sound on Sound review of the Kemper Profiling Amplifier. The bit that I most enjoyed is when he talks about modelling being a little too hung up on mathematical analysis. His preferred method is to listen to a circuit rather than 'studying' it. That chimes with any interviews I've read/seen with Sean Costello (Valhalla reverbs). He also discusses critical listening as being the most important part of what he does.

    https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/kemper-profiling-amplifier

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