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Overloud TH-U premium bundle vs purchasing Rigs

I’m confused about Overloud TH-U. If I buy the premium version does that include all the rigs? Or are they separate? If separate, then what exactly does the premium version do differently? Or should you just buy the rigs? Any help and or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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  • @Brad said:
    I’m confused about Overloud TH-U. If I buy the premium version does that include all the rigs? Or are they separate? If separate, then what exactly does the premium version do differently? Or should you just buy the rigs? Any help and or advice would be greatly appreciated.

    No rigs are not part of the bundle. FWIW, I think getting a few great rigs is money better spent than the big bundle.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    No rigs are not part of the bundle. FWIW, I think getting a few great rigs is money better spent than the big bundle.

    That’s kind of how I was thinking. So what is in the bundle then? I mean what does it do that would be a reason to buy it?

  • @Brad said:

    That’s kind of how I was thinking. So what is in the bundle then? I mean what does it do that would be a reason to buy it?

    The amp sims are a different technology...they have a lot of variety and there are a few gems, but to my ears (and other people have said the same), the best rigs are a cut above. The big bundle also has a lot of effects pedals and rack gear that are worthwhile...but you can get the effects bundle or a la carte effects. They can be worthwhile if you want an all-in-one system where you can easily switch between full setups.

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  • @espiegel123 said:

    The amp sims are a different technology...they have a lot of variety and there are a few gems, but to my ears (and other people have said the same), the best rigs are a cut above. The big bundle also has a lot of effects pedals and rack gear that are worthwhile...but you can get the effects bundle or a la carte effects. They can be worthwhile if you want an all-in-one system where you can easily switch between full setups.

    Thanks for explaining it. I get it now. I think I’ll grab some rigs and possibly the effects bundle.

  • edited November 2021

    @Brad said:

    Thanks for explaining it. I get it now. I think I’ll grab some rigs and possibly the effects bundle.

    Yes that’s the move. The amp “sims” from the premium bundle and the other smaller bundles do have some gems in them, but those also use cab sims instead of impulse responses. The rigs will sound better and are based on real amp captures, and they use IRs for the cabinet stage. On top of that, you can load your own IRs into any of the cab sim modules that come with the free app, and pair those with the rigs (bypass the rig cab of course in that case).

    The effects bundles are the must haves and a great value, all those effects paired with rigs is the cream of the crop. Keep in mind, the fx bundles and the all distortion bundles are two separate bundles. So if you have to choose get the fx bundle, unless you really really want all those overdrives and distortions (they are great). However, many of the profiles or captures inside each individual rig already have baked in overdrive pedals, so if you’re using rigs you can pick the high gain patches inside those rigs and skip the distortions. I use both because I love some of the overdrive pedals in the app (Brunetti vanilla, Taxi drive, analog booster, etc..)

    Which brings me to the actual difference between sims and rigs. With sims you get an amp face for each amp emulation and you can set up the tone from scratch as you’d expect. With rigs, you get the Rig Player which is a multipurpose amp face module that loads rigs you purchase. So these are “captures” or “patches” and each rig comes with a hundred or two hundred of them, from clean to dirty and everything in between. The Rig Player has a lot of tweakable knobs, and they are effective, but it doesn’t reflect each individual rig, since the rig player is all purpose. So the point of using the Rigs is taking advantage of the hundreds of patches that have been curated for you, tweaking them slightly, but just sticking to the patches you like, rather than building a tone from scratch. As I said these patches will have real world overdrives baked into the capture as well. Each rig capture lists what amp setting, mic, cabinet, and overdrive pedal was used. Does this make sense?

  • Despite some complaints I’ve voiced, the THU Rigs I’ve gotten sound awesome and feel great. To me they are also a nice short cut to slice of great tone for the whole 9 yards of a signal chain without the fuss.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:

    Yes that’s the move. The amp “sims” from the premium bundle and the other smaller bundles do have some gems in them, but those also use cab sims instead of impulse responses. The rigs will sound better and are based on real amp captures, and they use IRs for the cabinet stage. On top of that, you can load your own IRs into any of the cab sim modules that come with the free app, and pair those with the rigs (bypass the rig cab of course in that case).

    The effects bundles are the must haves and a great value, all those effects paired with rigs is the cream of the crop. Keep in mind, the fx bundles and the all distortion bundles are two separate bundles. So if you have to choose get the fx bundle, unless you really really want all those overdrives and distortions (they are great). However, many of the profiles or captures inside each individual rig already have baked in overdrive pedals, so if you’re using rigs you can pick the high gain patches inside those rigs and skip the distortions. I use both because I love some of the overdrive pedals in the app (Brunetti vanilla, Taxi drive, analog booster, etc..)

    Which brings me to the actual difference between sims and rigs. With sims you get an amp face for each amp emulation and you can set up the tone from scratch as you’d expect. With rigs, you get the Rig Player which is a multipurpose amp face module that loads rigs you purchase. So these are “captures” or “patches” and each rig comes with a hundred or two hundred of them, from clean to dirty and everything in between. The Rig Player has a lot of tweakable knobs, and they are effective, but it doesn’t reflect each individual rig, since the rig player is all purpose. So the point of using the Rigs is taking advantage of the hundreds of patches that have been curated for you, tweaking them slightly, but just sticking to the patches you like, rather than building a tone from scratch. As I said these patches will have real world overdrives baked into the capture as well. Each rig capture lists what amp setting, mic, cabinet, and overdrive pedal was used. Does this make sense?

    Yes!! Thank you!! Great explanation.

    @joegrant413 said:
    Despite some complaints I’ve voiced, the THU Rigs I’ve gotten sound awesome and feel great. To me they are also a nice short cut to slice of great tone for the whole 9 yards of a signal chain without the fuss.

    Makes perfect sense. Thanks!!

  • Any thought on how the THU effects compare with Nembrini, Mixbox, or other effects bundles?

    I already have a bunch of new and old effects, so that’s why I ask. But if the THU effects are generally high quality or better, if might be at least worth the convenience of having their effects ready to go and dialed in when I’m using the THU rigs.

    Thx

  • edited July 2024

    If I purchase rig through overloud.com page, will I see purchased Rig on my ipad version of the app?
    (with the same account of course)

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