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Find key from typing in chords

Does anyone know of an app that I can type a couple of chords into, ideally, the less chords the more possibilities, the more chords the less key option will result?

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  • TONALY comes to mind.

  • Tonality can do it...

  • Lazy Googling produced this...
    https://www.whatkeyamiin.com

  • Not really getting how to do that with Tonality. Tonaly I can select a bunch of chords but not sure it is showing me the key anywhere. I was hoping for something simple whee I just type E A B and it shows Emaj. Or I type A B and it gives Emaj and A lydian etc.

  • You won’t really be able to determine a key from a couple of chords - key is more about context than a list of notes, and just because a couple of chords imply a key, you might go completely wrong if subsequent chord changes modulate to a different key.

    While software might point you in the right direction, I would highly recommend learning some theory and practicing analyses of existing music - you’ll get a far better understanding of what is meant by ‘key’.

  • @michael_m said:
    You won’t really be able to determine a key from a couple of chords - key is more about context than a list of notes, and just because a couple of chords imply a key, you might go completely wrong if subsequent chord changes modulate to a different key.

    While software might point you in the right direction, I would highly recommend learning some theory and practicing analyses of existing music - you’ll get a far better understanding of what is meant by ‘key’.

    Yeah, outsourcing this kind of thing is painting yourself into a box. Plus the theory algorithm will always give you the most basic solution, not the creative solution. Theory is best used as a generative tool, not a descriptive tool (my opinion).

  • edited November 2021

    I get it. I just work it out myself as a rule. But occasionally something comes along and I would like to understand it better. Like a song where the verse is Emaj F#maj G#maj. There is no single related scale I know of. Or is there?

  • edited November 2021

    @Ailerom said:
    I get it. I just work it out myself as a rule. But occasionally something comes along and I would like to understand it better. Like a song where the verse is Emaj F#maj G#maj. There is no single related scale I know of. Or is there?

    I think C#minor Or F#min or others work... Since Chords can be borrowed form other scales, it could work in a few scales. The best scales to borrow from are the relative scale or the parallel scale, ie C Maj to Amin or C Maj to Cmin. But C major also contains the same notes as D dorian E Phrygian F Lydian G mixolodian & B locrian. So try a few scales that could work to find what you are looking for…

  • Tonality, scale finder, in key, are some apps that will help. There’s also lots of great infographics and scale chord charts available with a Google image search.

  • Found it! Chord! seems to do this quite well. For the above chord progression it show many options but C# Mian Ki Malhar is a 100% match.

  • edited November 2021

    @Ailerom said:
    I get it. I just work it out myself as a rule. But occasionally something comes along and I would like to understand it better. Like a song where the verse is Emaj F#maj G#maj. There is no single related scale I know of. Or is there?

    It depends what you are looking to do. That’s probably not untypical of the kind of thing played in rock songs, and assuming the E Maj is the first chord in each sequence, a guitarist might just think to try an E min pentatonic scale. Theory might say that is not the ideal scale, but with practice a guitarist would know which notes work well, and which ones in the pentatonic scale need to be bent to a better note.

    Looking at it from a theory perspective it might be better to use a major scale, and change to use the same major scale as the root note in each chord in the progression, but that’s more likely from a jazz player’s perspective. Or you might want to get inventive and use a whole tone scale with those chords, or many other solutions.

    It’s not really about a one size fits all solution - the more you learn about music the more choices you have, because you have the knowledge to know how to make them work.

  • @Ailerom said:
    Found it! Chord! seems to do this quite well. For the above chord progression it show many options but C# Mian Ki Malhar is a 100% match.

    Sweet. Forgot about that one.

  • @Poppadocrock said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Found it! Chord! seems to do this quite well. For the above chord progression it show many options but C# Mian Ki Malhar is a 100% match.

    Sweet. Forgot about that one.

    😂

  • @michael_m said:
    It depends what you are looking to do.

    Exactly ;)

  • edited November 2021

    @Ailerom said:
    Not really getting how to do that with Tonality.

    Probably not exactly what you want, but he's probably referring to the fact that you can play the chords you want into the scale identifier AU with the "lock" button turned on and it will list all the scales which match.

  • @TonalityApp said:

    @Ailerom said:
    Not really getting how to do that with Tonality.

    Probably not exactly what you want, but he's probably referring to the fact that you can play the chords you want into the scale identifier AU with the "lock" button turned on and it will list all the scales which match.

    Thanks. If I was more fluent on keys I'd try but alas.

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