Animoog Z = Drambo Pop 🍭

Edward_Alexander

A Drambo jam that kind of turned into a pop instrumental. A full 8 tracks in Drambo, exported and arranged in Cubasis 3.

Trying to dial in a good mix down and also trying to keep the drums from being too loud while maintaining their punchy-ness with the bass is a matter of constant trial and error it seems.

Also, I can’t decide which version I like better. The original, straight from Drambo, or the Cubasis 3 version, where I’ve added another Animoog Z part, and an on the spot improvised piano track.

Exported from Drambo:

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/oc4hpVxb9xHajGHY7

Imported into Cubasis 3. Added additional Animoog Z part, and a Ravenscroft 275 piano. 6144 EQ and Magic Deatheye on the master and utilized CB3’s “Mixdown” feature to render the finished audio file.

https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/zYPBaZnrToZjxeRs9

It’s funny, sometimes I get the feeling that SoundCloud is purposely messing with my sound in attempt to sway me into purchasing their “mastering product”.

And for some reason (probably my fault, as I’m always rushing through things), I’m finding that I often have a bunch of blank space after my audio on SoundCloud?

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Edward_Alexander

@tja said:
That's easy to answer.

The second song is already double as long as the first (second half is just silence. Cubasis export problem again???)

Reverse this by glueing the first song and second song together!

First song first, then the second song.

This is, how I heared them anyways and I liked it!

Thanks!

So it’s a known Cubasis thing? I wonder if @LinearLineman ever runs into this problem. He uses CB3 exclusively I think.

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LinearLineman

@Edward_Alexander said:

@tja said:
That's easy to answer.

The second song is already double as long as the first (second half is just silence. Cubasis export problem again???)

Reverse this by glueing the first song and second song together!

First song first, then the second song.

This is, how I heared them anyways and I liked it!

Thanks!

So it’s a known Cubasis thing? I wonder if @LinearLineman ever runs into this problem. He uses CB3 exclusively I think.

I did have that problem with Cubasis2 but never with Cubasis3.

Edward_Alexander

@LinearLineman said:

@Edward_Alexander said:

@tja said:
That's easy to answer.

The second song is already double as long as the first (second half is just silence. Cubasis export problem again???)

Reverse this by glueing the first song and second song together!

First song first, then the second song.

This is, how I heared them anyways and I liked it!

Thanks!

So it’s a known Cubasis thing? I wonder if @LinearLineman ever runs into this problem. He uses CB3 exclusively I think.

I did have that problem with Cubasis2 but never with Cubasis3.

I see. Hey, just wondering, have you had a chance to give this piece a spin?

Blipsford_Baubie

I like both. I don’t know if this will work key-wise, but I want to hear the first minute of theCubasis version as a break down in the middle of the Drambo version.

I like those drums. Drambo or AU in Drambo?

Edward_Alexander

@Blipsford_Baubie said:
I like both. I don’t know if this will work key-wise, but I want to hear the first minute of theCubasis version as a break down in the middle of the Drambo version.

I like those drums. Drambo or AU in Drambo?

Thank you! The drums are Hammerhead Rhythm Station’s “acoustic” set, sequenced by Atom 2 in Drambo.

GeoTony

Listened to the second one, nice laid back feel + good to have a start, middle and end.
Has the licence on your GeoTenorSax expired?😊🎷

Edward_Alexander

@GeoTony said:
Listened to the second one, nice laid back feel + good to have a start, middle and end.
Has the licence on your GeoTenorSax expired?😊🎷

Thank you Tony!

Haha no, @LinearLineman says I’ve been using him too much. So without kicking him out of the band, I just gave him a couple nights off.

He’ll be back next week! (I hope! Unless he goes off and joins the Kenny G band - I heard they might be looking for a sax player lol)

Paulieworld

Hi Ed. I have had the same thing happen on a few mixdowns.
I 'fixed' the problem by turning off the effects tail, and selected 'mix between locators'.
For some reason, I am not hearing anything when I try to play your track.
I tried rebooting, but same thing happened. Silence. Strange!
I'll try again later.

Edward_Alexander

@Paulieworld said:
Hi Ed. I have had the same thing happen on a few mixdowns.
I 'fixed' the problem by turning off the effects tail, and selected 'mix between locators'.
For some reason, I am not hearing anything when I try to play your track.
I tried rebooting, but same thing happened. Silence. Strange!
I'll try again later.

Ah! That “effects tail” setting in the mix down process. Yup, that’s probably what it is…

Thanks, try again when you can! I promise there’s music there!

Paulieworld

It plays just fine on my iPad, but not my desktop. Go figure.
That's a beautiful song. You have a real knack for writing lovely melody. Very well done!

You might also consider the mix between locators feature.
When I start a new project, I usually set the start/end locators well away from zero.
As the project develops, I place new parts before and after the song boundaries.
Then I can try them out and copy them into various locations in the song when I have something I like.
That might be handy with AUM or Drambo.
You could compose multiple parts with different instrumentation and record them outside the song markers.
Then you could try different arrangements of those parts as you assemble the final song.
When you settle on the final arrangement, just set the start end end points and mix down between them.
All of your work ups are still within the project, but are not included in the final mix.
I will often add a bit extra at the end if there is some reverb or echo that I want to preserve.
You don't actually need the effects tail at all!

Edward_Alexander

@Paulieworld said:
It plays just fine on my iPad, but not my desktop. Go figure.
That's a beautiful song. You have a real knack for writing lovely melody. Very well done!

You might also consider the mix between locators feature.
When I start a new project, I usually set the start/end locators well away from zero.
As the project develops, I place new parts before and after the song boundaries.
Then I can try them out and copy them into various locations in the song when I have something I like.
That might be handy with AUM or Drambo.
You could compose multiple parts with different instrumentation and record them outside the song markers.
Then you could try different arrangements of those parts as you assemble the final song.
When you settle on the final arrangement, just set the start end end points and mix down between them.
All of your work ups are still within the project, but are not included in the final mix.
I will often add a bit extra at the end if there is some reverb or echo that I want to preserve.
You don't actually need the effects tail at all!

Thanks for having a listen. And thanks for the tips on the “mix between locators”.

I’ve also been experimenting with the “Normalize” function here in the Mixdown area.

Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr

I think maybe I like the first one better. As a general rule, simple, minimalistic harmony seems to work better with simple, minimalistic orchestration to my ear. That’s just my personal taste. Good work either way though. You have a talent for expressing yourself.

Edward_Alexander

@Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
I think maybe I like the first one better. As a general rule, simple, minimalistic harmony seems to work better with simple, minimalistic orchestration to my ear. That’s just my personal taste. Good work either way though. You have a talent for expressing yourself.

Thanks! I appreciate the listen and the objective viewpoint. I do believe you’re right!

Edward_Alexander

So I decided that I needed a “YouTube Version” of this piece for my channel. I used the first version
(Straight from Drambo) and added some visual effects in CapCut.

I’ve decided that I prefer this version over the second one where I added the piano etc. Sounds a lot better in the car anyway!

Edit: oopsies! I didn’t notice the little blemish @1:56 where I guess I was engaging/disengaging AltiSpace 2 on the bass track? I didn’t remember that little mishap being recorded. Oh well!