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Help me "get" AniMoog Z
Ok, I've downloaded both the classic AniMoog and the new Z version a couple of times and played around with them and tried to incorporate them into my music but I've never clicked with it.
I really don't get what everybody's raving about.
Is it the keyboard? - Well, that's not a thing for me since all of my music is programmed into sequencers or generated by Rozetta. I seldom play anything manually.
Is it the sound? - I have to say that I really don't find it all that impressive.
Still, somehow I feel that I'm missing something and just need that "Aha!"-moment to get what everybody's talking about re AniMoog.
Rambling a bit but I hope you get what I'm trying to say... 
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I have the same reaction to Sushi….all my friends and family swear by it but does nothing for me
It could well be the sound - I’m like “well, that’s quelled my GAS for the Behringer PPG clone whenever it arrives”, also now not so bothered about Nave going AUv3. This of course is a narrow range of what Animoog can potentially do, just my thing.
It's the sound. It could get very atmospheric. A good reverb to wash it. An example of what it can produce (The same video i made in another topic)
For me, it is the “movement” that can be found in so many patches.
That’s why.
The way Animoog plays like an instrument is what places it at a level above most apps.
Sure most sounds can be recreated or reproduced in similar apps… it’s just synthesis, right? I honestly don’t even like the signature Animoog feature- the Animoog timbre orbit. Something about the digital artifacts when moving between timbres always bothers me. It’s not evident in most of the new Z presets, and you can always adjust things to eliminate it. but it’s still sometimes noticeable, probably the one weakness of an otherwise perfect instrument.
But in spite of all that, Animoog has a perfect keyboard that allows for amazing instrument-like expressiveness. Nothing compares.
I hope you feel free to let it go. It seems it’s just an app that doesn’t fit in your way of making music. Don’t let it bother you that some of us love it so much.
I agree this is great, some really fantastic presets that’s have a very long beautiful journey through the ADSR. But for me that’s not what makes it unique… other synths can do that.
…how the Animoog keyboard affects and dictates that journey? That’s the magic.
@lasselu : like most synths designed for MPE type response, much of Animoog's appeal is its playability whether from its own keyboard or an expressive keyboard with per note aftertouch and pitchbend. You could do it with a sequencer by painstakingly programming the right CC's, but it is much easier done with touch.
Yes, its the playability. Whenever I sequence Animoog or Animoog Z I think Hmmmm. Bit its a different story when I play it. Under my Fingers it becomes magic and fun. I am actually suddenly looking around for MPE controllers because of it. I would like a traditional keyboard best where I could swipe over the keys to get the modulations. Is there something like that around?
So I'd better learn to play keys then...
Anyway, since I didn't buy much on Black Friday I decided to go for the full IAP just be able to try a bit of programming...
For me it’s the sound plus some other cool features like xyz grid, mpe keyboard, etc…
@Doc_T, we are awaiting the yet to be released Osmose, which allows standard keys to express vibrato, etc. That is the only piano keyboard, I think, that will respond like an MPE. Otherwise you have aftertouch, mod wheels and expression pedals. There are many of those available. There are non keyboard MPEs like Linnstrument that offer what you’re looking for but it requires learning a new keyless keyboard.
It is a sample fodder machine for me. I will plunk and smear and x/y/z for a few minutes recording into Bm3 and then chop and slice the juice. Photoshop all the way.
I agree there are a couple of features that cry out 'Animoog', one of which I think is particular timbres rather then the transition between them. The ones labelled 'digital drop' and some of the 'sweep' ones are very noticeable and kind of horrid in an autotune kind of way. If I find an otherwise nice preset I usually find that just swapping out one of the timbres can be enough to rescue it. The other 'signature' effect is overdoing the orbits, which are best kept slow.
And yes, playability is key. Even just using a keyboard with aftertouch open up a huge range of expressiveness.
This may be covered somewhere else but I’d like to ask, how does Arturia Microfreak play with Animoog? Is that a good option as a controller for Animoog/z?
I think this would be an amazing controller for Z
Just had a major price drop too!
https://www.samash.com/keith-mcmillen-instruments-k-board-pro-4-mpe-midi-keyboard-controller-kk919xxxx
Microfreak is a good controller, but I prefer my Qunexus which is more expressive and also because of the physical resistance of pushing into the rubber keys.
It's just had an MPE update too which you can read about in the QuNexus thread
I had issues with the responsiveness of my Microfreak. I don't think it was faulty as it worked fine for other people, but for me it was very temperamental. Hard to get the full range of expression unless I licked my fingers a lot
The KMI stuff is MUCH more expressive in my use too.
It’s amazing and you don’t need to use the keyboard or MPE to take advantage of what it can do.
Try just building a single timbre patch from scratch without Pressure or Velocity as mod sources but instead using orbit and path.
I mainly use the Timbres from the Model D pack.
I also found Touchkeys. You could modify an existing keyboard with them.
How about the Joué or the Sensel Morph boards (+Buchla overlay) to make advantage of the MPE?
Sure. I personally had some issues with the Morph, but i have also had issues with the Seaboard (stuck notes). Mpe is generally a joy to play with though, and if you are doing slow ambient stuff, you can be very expressive even without great keyboard skills.
Animoog kb is excellent and responsive. You can easily change the scale and the spacing layout while playing. The corr and glide controls allow a wide variety of responses, and can also be easily changed on the fly.