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So, I picked up an iPad Pro 11 inch M1, and here are my experiences with it
Haven’t had a lot of time to edit videos, plus I figured it would be easier making a post. I’ll divide this post into 4 sections.
- Unboxing
- First impressions
- 3-week impressions
- Conclusion
Okay, let’s go…
- Unboxing
Receiving a new device, especially a new device, has this feeling of wonder nd excitement. Like, you know what you’re getting, but seeing it in person is so surreal. I ordered the package during the Black Friday promotion inspired by a previous thread and it arrived on the weekend.
Setting up was actually really easy. As my older iPad was running iOS 14, I was able to do a quick setup which required bringing both iPads together, scanning an image, and that’s it. All my documents transferred.
I had a quick look at the new iPad and the old one. The apps were still transferring, but a lot of my documents (including audioshare files, garageband projects), and applications (FM Essentials app unlock still remained …super thankful for that) were successfuly transferred. My old iPad then presented an option to erase everything, which I did and I thought that was it.
BIG MISTAKE. Well, I’d say the transfer was 95% successful. I realized that a few apps that no longer existed could no longer be downloaded. Specifically, Oval Synth. Also, note that it only allows apps that are linked to your Apple ID account, so if you have any apps that were refunded, or purchased via another Apple ID, it will not transfer.
I was a bit miffed by the loss of Oval Synth (i do still have it on my iPhone), but other than that, I was excited to step into the world of an iPad Pro user, from an iPad 6th Gen.
- First Impressions
First impressions of the iPad was great. The smoother display was a welcome addition, and compared to my older iPad, it seemed like a positive addition. I’ll be honest and say that I wouldn’t have noticed if I only ihad the 6th gen, but putting the old and the new one side by side, the newer one had a richer display.
Another major upgrade was the speakers. Stereo speakers are a welcome addition, but the increased volume due to the number of speakers meant that I could drive the audio louder, especially when outdoors.
I picked up an Apple pencil, and compared to my 1st generation, and Logitech crayon, the second generation is really handy for two reasons…wireless charging, and second gesture. Wireless charging meant I never had to worry about charging my pencil. The secondary gesture meant I could use an app like Microsoft OneNote (my favorite notetaking app), and double tap the side of the pencil to toggle between an eraser, and the pencil. only downside, is that the pencil kept falling off if I didn’t secure it properly with a case.
Speaking of a case, i picked up a purple case from Amazon. Sadly it didn’t come in black, but the case came with a lot of additional features. A protective cover that can be removed, a magnetic shield, and a magnetic typing keyboard with an in-built trackpad.
- Three (3) - week Impressions
Taking the iPad for a spin, I used it in two ways…as an Engineering Student, and as a music producer.
As an Engineering student/apprentice, the main benefits were the richer display, quick access to pencil for sketching ideas. I did find my original favourites such as Google Photos, Pythonista, Microsoft OneNote, Coursera, Shapr3D, Notion, and the like to be as intuitive as the older iPad, but the presence of a USB-C port was great. I was able to use a lot of cables from my Android and other electronics easily.
As a music producer, I’ve got mixed feelings about this iPad. One of the major benefits is being able to connect controllers like my Novation launchkey directly to the iPad with a small USB-C adapter.
I haven’t yet seen the benefits of a trackpad on an iPad, especially since I can touch the items I’m looking for but I’ll have to wait and see.
Losing the headphone jack is a sigificant loss in my workflow. I tried using an app like Garageband while connecting a USB-C headphone dongle, but there was feedback. it seems my headphones were acting as a speaker, and a microphone via the USB dongle. Tested different headphone which did not come with microphones, such as my Behringer studio monitors, Sennheiser HD450s, in-ear monitors, and the same issue occurred.
- Conclusion
Overall, I don’t regret the purchase. I’ve decided to embrace the benefits and find solutions to the limitations. Face ID, the better camera, and AR are cool technologies and all, but I haven’t yet found much use out of them…yet. It honestly feels like I’m using the exact same iPad as my 6th generation, but with a nicer display.
Would I recommend someone to upgrade? Honestly, no. At least, unless your iPad is older than 2018.
Comments
Well, I hope the speed will get you sooner or later and make you a fan. I personally dread upgrading from my 12.9 Pro2. I still don’t quite get how to best connect a keyboard controller and a headphone. Is a hub enough? Do you need an audio interface? It’s so damn uncomplicated with the Pro2 🤬
hub is enough. if you don't mind running off just the internal battery:
https://amazon.com/Female-Adapter-Splitter-Converter-MacBook/dp/B098JQFD6J/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=USB+C+to+Dual+USB+A+Female+Adapter+Type+C+to+Dual+USB+A+Splitter+USB+c+to+Double+USB+2.0+Adapter+Double+USB+2.0+OTG+Splitter+Cord+Converter+for+MacBook+Pro,+Google+Pixel,+Galaxy+S9+/+S8+/+Note+8&qid=1639115727&s=electronics&sr=1-1&th=1
sorry for the stupid long link
Wow, that looks easy enough. So that dongle has not affected your iPad adversely in any way? Thx. If it’s that easy I can start looking forward to an M1in a couple of years.
I use the headphone dongle every day on my M1 Pro (12.9”) with zero issues. Multiple headphones as well, though mostly B&O H6s (mids are really revealing even if the bass is low), and never an issue. I wonder if it’s the dongle or the iPad because that issue should not occur.
EDIT: Most have a built-in microphone / remote control in the cable
so far, nope. no issues.
Wow, mate, I wish there were more down-to-earth, balanced, non-sparkly-eyed reviews like yours. Thank you and good luck with your new ipad!
Its a giant ipod. With a keyboard to search for tracks. So many tracks means scrolling no good. You need a keyboard. Also a bicycle. When auto bikes are here. A giant ipod in the front basket could be pleasant.
This hub is okay if you connect Midi gear but it’s a bad choice if you want to connect drives. It’s USB 2.0 which is quite slow. There are similar dongles with USB 3.x support.
And you can’t charge an iPad Pro with that kind of dongle, as IPP needs PD little adapters will become so hot that’s they’re not usable. Regular USB-C HUB is the way to go, note that hub 60W PD capability and 60W power source are needed for 30W iPad + hub heat power loss + extra devices powering. But that doubler dongle is perfect for audio + midi.
I use this HUB myself, and I just discovered that Apple usb-c jack DAC dongle can be connected with usb-c/usb-a adapter: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/46468/baseus-ipad-usb-c-hub-works-really-well
@seonnthaproducer I bought the same iPad model and I think it’s a significant step up to previous iPad models. I think it is really coming close to the performance of a MacBook Air. The hardware is great but most software hasn’t caught up with its capabilities. ATM Cubasis 3 is the only AU host that really utilizes multi-core. In CB3 I can run 30 instances of Model D while in AUM I can run only 9. Another forum user was able to do more than a hundred audio tracks with FX plugins in CB3. Check it out.
Also check out the countless USB-C dongle threads here in the forum. It’s quite a mess and you have to be cautious to choose the right dongle, hub, charger and cables. Always check the fine print of the specs for all of those components as you get only the performance/wattage/capabilities of the weakest component in the chain. I decided to do USB-C as much as possible. I bought a Sitecom CN-386 hub, the Apple dongle for headphones and a chained USB-A hub for the Midi gear. Charger, hub and cables should do min 40W PD so you can use the iPad under load, charge it and power Midi gear at the same time. Better 60W as it gives you some headroom. Good luck.
So, what is the ideal, least expensive solution to hook up a midi controller and headphones simultaneously. I was advised on this, but how does it hookup phones?
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That’s all I needed to know. Many thanks, Seonn.
Is 11inches a good size?
Atm I like my. 12.9 for most things and an old. Gen2 mini for reading in bed etc
@seonnthaproducer I remember you using Gadget in the past.
Curious to hear about battery drain while playing live on Lisbon gadget with the piano-roll above it.
I gotta say, even though I am still a bit ass burned about the headphone jack (waaah etc) I try to see it is a tradeoff for this amazing usbC thunderbolt port. Good lord, hooking up a Samsung T7 drive has opened this device up for me so much. The transfer speeds are insanely fast. You can even use it for editing Lumafusion videos, crazy!
Which hub are you using?
Standard usb to 1/8" adapter. Or any variation of the above dongle.....
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Compatible/dp/B099ZCN2W2/ref=asc_df_B099ZCN2W2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=532866354688&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17815662164869724357&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032814&hvtargid=pla-1434893685561&th=1
Does this actually support a data connection on the USB-C plug? It seems to be intended for charging only.
Again...there's a million variations....
you're really gonna make me work for it at 6 am arent ya? 🤪
https://www.amazon.com/Female-Adapter-Splitter-Converter-Charger/dp/B09J8BVWKR/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=Usb+c+splitter&qid=1639154713&sr=8-4
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CYS5WGX/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B09CYS5WGX&pd_rd_w=Jqi1L&pf_rd_p=887084a2-5c34-4113-a4f8-b7947847c308&pd_rd_wg=qqkTp&pf_rd_r=8YQR7XH5CQMDP1W4G37K&pd_rd_r=dda0f426-f21f-4d43-a47f-91da4c29f6e4&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVERNWko4SlM2ODdZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTg5NDIwM1RTSlpFVU9TRlFaOSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzM3ODk2M0tZQzM3WUZOSklRWiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Use you headphone adapter of choice or get yo googlefu on
I have yet to see an iPad break 500mb/sec on usb c, so I see no issues with 2.0/type a ports.
@AlmostAnonymous I know, just pointing it out for that particular one because it wouldn't work for @LinearLineman's intended use
no worries
Personally i'm still curious about @Tahiche's cases because hes only 1 of 2 people that i knwo who had issues with a port (other than straight physical damage).
I have a 12.9" M1 and a second gen Mini now. I had a 9.7" first gen Pro before. The 9.7" Pro is pretty comparable in size to the 11" Pro. I love the screen and work area on the 12.9" Pro, but if I were forced to only have one iPad at this point I'd take the Mini. For me, the 11" is a compromise between the advantages of the Mini and the 12.9" Pro and if I had to choose only one, the advantages of the Mini outweigh the compromises of the 11" size.
That's the one in which we generally agreed that the shape of the hub made it easy to exert extra torque on it and short the port contacts?
I dunno if that was the end result. I just know he's fried multiple ipads.
mini user here. the 14:9 ratio also works better on external displays.
I must admit I completely disagree on this point but I have the 12.9 inch M1 Pro. The display for one has changed my movie and TV consumption as there's so much UHD content available on the streaming services if you know how to find it. With the likes of Apple TV and Disney+, any newly commissioned work is UHD by default but Netflix and Amazon Prime have a reasonable quota of UHD content. Being a Virgin customer the only way I can access Sky Atlantic is via NOW (which charges extra for HD and UHD is only available to Sky customers - typical Murdoch shenanigans).
My M1 iPad has a better screen than the 50 inch Samsung in our lounge so with any big-ticket content like the final season of The Expanse, I choose the watch it on my M1 with headphones, and that ends up being a more cine style experience than watching it on the Samsung. You feel more involved in the experience. And with The Expanse, true blacks really matter! 🎦🎦🎦
All that aside, it's the multi-threaded performance in Cubasis 3 that provides most of the payback for my stumping up for a premium M1 model. My average Cubasis 3 project involves 50-70 devices including some that really put the processer under pressure (Moog, Drambo, DrumComputer etc), and they play back without a cough or splutter. Using the M1 iPad Pro is the first time I've experienced desktop beating multi-core performance on an iPadOS device. No hyperbole the performance difference from my 3rd Gen iPad Pro is night and day. My only regret concerning my M1 iPad Pro is not stumping up for the 512 Gb model (I thought 256 Gb would be enough, but I hadn't considered the growing array of multi-GB music apps you can purchase these days - Staffpad alone consumes a fair chunk of my storage).
I have an A15 Mini as my mobile device so my 12.9 M1 is permanently connected to a pair of hubs with PD passthrough charging or it's connected to my main desktop where the USB C connection keeps it charged (it's one of 4 iOS devices I use to stream audio to Ableton via Studiomux).
The Magic Trackpad has such a lovely UX I often use it for swiping between apps, scrolling web pages, changing pages in ebooks and suchlike. Most of the time I'm using my M1 Pro as a laptop replacement, but that's not quite true as I always have a laptop open beside it.
I disagree with the OP’s conclusion. The 2021 11” pro is a sexy beast. Those huge bezels are gone (also true of the iPad Air now or an older 11” if you need cheaper options). the form factor is a great middle ground that feels full size, but is so much more portable than the 12.9.
I’d consider it a great upgrade for any non-Pro iPad before 2020. The internals are a superb upgrade, even if the 8GB RAM and M1 upgrades are only sometimes evident. The little things add up and I think the overall experience is worth it, especially if you can sell your old iPad for $300-$500 to cover some of the cost.
@AlmostAnonymous, sorry, my primitive brain couldn’t imagine this. Now it can! (tho how something like that works seems to me like turning an apple into a roast beef sandwich. But I guess it’s all just electrons).

So… now, lol, I really don’t get the uproar about losing the headphone Jack! Other than you can’t power the iPad at the same time? Not sure if that’s even a good thing to do from what i may have read,