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Pana - Natural Panner by Klevgränd produkter AB - Released

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  • No LFO but I trust the parameters are exposed?

  • Hint : there is no lfo on this because its meant to emulate mixing tricks that were mainly founded on a neve 5036 or likewise were a mono channels' fader bus (if bused propperly) could have 2 mono faders that where hard panned permanantely. its basically the same concept as goodhertz or boz digitals panner emus.

    With that said im totaly an advocate for doing things that werent meant to be done..

    Also this technique is absolutely essential for mix engineers that will have to mix something like Ryan adams where there just 1guit 1 vox and maybe a tambo... Leave everything under 300-500 hz centered and pan out the guitar and tambo as far as you want. It will leave less "holes" in your stereo field and sound relatively dense for a 3 track mix. Against popular belief (as can be found in the white papers from I believe lexicon guys? maybe MIT?) showed that people subjected in a lab environment where indeed very perceptive to phase anomolies but only higher up in the spectrum around 1.5khz is where we precieve most stereo type sounds esp. transients in program material...

    haha Anyways cheers and Love the panner so far klevgrand. Glad this happened on ios

  • a panner with so few controls and not universal?

  • @eylvy said:

    No automation of any of those parameter changes, right?

  • @NeuM said:

    @eylvy said:

    No automation of any of those parameter changes, right?

    Not at the moment but it will be very essential is they pull it in one of the next updates.

  • edited December 2021

    @zedzdeadbaby said:
    Leave everything under 300-500 hz centered and pan out the guitar and tambo as far as you want. It will leave less "holes" in your stereo field and sound relatively dense for a 3 track mix. Against popular belief (as can be found in the white papers from I believe lexicon guys? maybe MIT?) showed that people subjected in a lab environment where indeed very perceptive to phase anomolies but only higher up in the spectrum around 1.5khz is where we precieve most stereo type sounds esp. transients in program material...

    NASA mixing... :smiley:

    Whatever happened to "twiddle the knobs until it sounds good"...?

  • @LinearLineman said:
    Are we scraping the bottom of the fx barrel here?

    True. This is a pretty specialized use case for create a mix down.

    I do wonder how many instances might be used in a mix and how much CPU is needed. It might be like Brusfri which is essential for noise removal but is a real CPU hog. An FX that can't always be thrown into a complex AUM or Cubasis project on every track
    but is more often used to process a "stem" that is then mixed into a final project mix.

    For $5 we'll see if the "buy 'em all" folks rave about the effect that's created versus just
    panning a bunch of tracks to create a stereo image. It may be compelling like "Spatializer" that adds a lot of depth to the sonic image when the primary content is a mono source.

    In a few months we'll probably have 3-4 or these from the usual developers that create a lot of FX by following the math behind psycho-acoustics. This might be the era of psycho acoustics.

    @LinearLineman, carry on, "these are not the droids you're looking for."

  • Free idea for Klevgrand for their next product: Add more voices to Pipa. And I'm willing to pay for the upgrade.

  • iPad only? Ohhhh 😞

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    This is precisely my weak spot. Or one of the spots I have that are weak. Or there are many spots, I have them all. Or I like spots, they're my weakness. And then, one day, He will come back and give us Stereo Designer as an Au3 and all of this weakness will finally cease.

    Spot-on analysis as always Mr. Goodyear. 👍🏼

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    And then, one day, He will come back and give us Stereo Designer as an Au3 and all of this weakness will finally cease.

    Praise be to the Holderness:

  • @eylvy said:

    it looks like auv3 UI isn't scaleable...

  • @Agatha_aga said:

    @eylvy said:

    it looks like auv3 UI isn't scaleable...

    I think that's the case for all of their apps. A point of frustration, to be sure.

  • I see people lamenting lack of an LFO, lack of automation, iPad only, etc. My question...can this effect be replicated in Drambo which happens to be universal and has unlimited LFOs and automation?

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I see people lamenting lack of an LFO, lack of automation, iPad only, etc. My question...can this effect be replicated in Drambo which happens to be universal and has unlimited LFOs and automation?

    So you're asking the eternal question... "Will it Drambo?"

  • Hey ,it may not look so fancy,but please go to your laptop and give it a try ,the demo is free。
    i dont like to talk about my own work, but like you i always love to over use a lot of reverbs and delays,this plugin dont make things super wide but it can really help me to make those mass of space clearer, i appreciate that。try it

  • @NeuM said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I see people lamenting lack of an LFO, lack of automation, iPad only, etc. My question...can this effect be replicated in Drambo which happens to be universal and has unlimited LFOs and automation?

    So you're asking the eternal question... "Will it Drambo?"

    Some say that "Will it Drambo?" was created by Drambo’s secret Question Generator Module.
    A module that came into existence without the dev’s knowledge.

    It is possible that an Answer Generator Module also exists, but Drambo is keeping quiet about that too.

    I, for one, welcome our new Drambo overlord.

  • wimwim
    edited December 2021

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I see people lamenting lack of an LFO, lack of automation, iPad only, etc. My question...can this effect be replicated in Drambo which happens to be universal and has unlimited LFOs and automation?

    All of what this app does should be replicable in Drambo or even without it. Most of the techniques they describe are things I’ve seen done and have done myself often with just standard FX chains. There’s nothing particularly innovative here, but they’ve made it simple and convenient. That’s what they went for with their last IR reverb plugin too.

  • Whether it's possible to mimic the effect with a standard fx chain isn't really the question to ask yourself. It's more whether you value the effect in a single AUv3.

  • @Agatha_aga said:

    @eylvy said:

    it looks like auv3 UI isn't scaleable...

    Yeah, like always, and disappointingly so. But at least it is still easy to control everything. FF scale but have too much cramped in there sometimes

  • How does it compares to Spatializer?

  • edited December 2021

    @NeuM said:

    @Agatha_aga said:

    @eylvy said:

    it looks like auv3 UI isn't scaleable...

    I think that's the case for all of their apps. A point of frustration, to be sure.

    ? At least Brusfri is scalable on my iPad. Or skakable, should I say...

  • Hello Everybody 😊
    Here is my video tutorial/demo for Pana, hope you enjoy the video.

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