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Sounds glorious. And deceptively simple looking
Happy New Year to all!
Pete
Really good, thanks, @UMCorps
@UMCorps That sounds really wonderful.
A happy (Wotja) new year everybody.
The https://intermorphic.com website should be fully refreshed within the next 24 hours.
The website update has been a monumental effort from Tim.
Not all new Wotja 22 features are going to be fully documented on day 1 (!) but we’ll fill in the gaps soon.
The site tracks 30+ years of continuous development and innovation. I hope you can find the time and root around; there is an awful lot of history to discover and ponder, as well as of course all the new stuff!
Best wishes, Pete
I’m just trying to figure out something; on an intel mac stuck on 10.13.x there will only be the standalone version available from what I read, ie the plugin version needs 10.15+ ?
Hi! Yes, that's right. AUv3 technology came-in with 10.15+
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/audiotoolbox/audio_unit_v3_plug-ins/creating_custom_audio_effects
That also means (of course) that the AUv3 hosting won't work prior to 10.15.x
We've not got any of those very old macOS builds machines for testing on, so I'm not totally sure what would happen. I'd recommend you first try the Free version of Wotja 22, to see if that works OK on your Intel macOS machine, before considering buying Wotja 22 Pro.
Best wishes, Pete
Ah gutted, I’m still on my ancient yet incredibly well preserved and functioning Mac Pro from 2009 😁
I was considering a pre order as the price seems good for what it offers over the two systems… maybe you’re right, I’ll try the free and see, maybe a month or two of sub will push me over the edge later; I’m promising myself I’ll finally upgrade to a silicon Mac at some point this year, just my old one keeps on being so good still it’s hard to justify the thousands it’ll cost to beat it 😅
Thanks,
Chris
Hi Chris,
Great work - they last for ever if you're lucky! However, my keyboards keep wearing out
- my new M1 is very nice however.
Don't forget - you can use the Free one without a subscription, just to verify first that it works OK for you.
Best wishes, Pete
Cheers Pete 👍👍
The site update is now live at https://intermorphic.com
Best wishes, Pete
Hi @impete happy 2022! I downloaded Wotja 22 Pro, rebooted and it fails on start every time while scanning hosted plug-ins. It seems to be scanning all my AU3s and I've got a few hundred installed so may be hitting a capacity issue.
Any thoughts? If there's Wotja logs anywhere that you can point me to, I'm happy to either go through them or forward them to you. No rush, as it's 36C here in Melbourne Australia today so I'm gonna hit the beach
256Gb iPad Air 3rd gen (2019?) running iOS 15.2. I've got 35Gb free so space doesn't seem to be the issue
Does last year's Wotja 21 still work just fine and stable with the most current macOS and iOS? And, does the full "Pro" fee of $3.99 get you pretty much everything in the app... just no more updates?
I've still got an older version (2017) from before they went with this subscription/annual fee, and it still pretty much works as well as it did back when I purchased it. Can those who've been using Wotja 21 verify if that's the same case now?
Will the paks that work in my 2017 Wotja still import/load into Wotja 21?
Yes, Wotja 21 was being updated till last month anyway, and is fine with the latest version of Monterey on M1 Macs; I haven't kept up with iOS 15, so somebody else will need to chip in there, but I'd be surprised if there were any issues.
Well, I just opened up my old install from 2017 on my iPad Pro 10.5 running 15.2. I got a pop-up that said this version of Wotja 2017 needs to be updated to run on this version of iOS. I updated (hoping it didn't sign me up for a sub or anything) and then it opened and ran just fine. Didn't charge me anything. It's still Wotja 2017 but it did an update to make sure it would still run.
I thought the older versions don't get updates?
This isn't a complaint of course. It's really kind of impressive that this 2017 version still seems to run just fine almost 5 years later without any regular updates.
I'm averse to subs, even annual ones... but if this old 2017 is STILL this solid, I think I'll at least buy the 21 version.
Hi! I've not yet seen any crash reports uploaded, but we'll get them through as normal and I'll do the usual of checking them out, and figuring-out a fix for anything we see.
The hosting work has been in development since March, and in Beta probably for the last 6 months; and stable for a long time, but there are always unforeseen bugs early on in a major update, so you'll just have to bear with us!
Certainly - I think you probably have more AUv3 plug-ins than any of our Beta testers
Best wishes, Pete
Thanks Skip. I'm always working to improve the stability of Wotja; it is a never-ending battle as there are more than half a million lines of code now, we run on several platforms, and we keep adding and reworking stuff...
Best wishes, Pete
Cool. I've always loved your apps. I bought all the updates up until the annual ones. I understand that you had to change your model in order to keep the development going.
I AM slowly warming up to the subscription model a little. These annual versions seem reasonable to me. Loopy Pro appears to have adopted a similar model and I'll likely pay the annual update when it comes due.
Glad you're still developing and Happy New Year
I’m also getting crashes during the scanning, so far seems to be on looking at atom… might be good to put in a marker that skips / quarantines crashed ones as a quick fix, I think this is how Roland did it with zenbeats… I’ve got an embarrassing amount of AUv3 installed, so any process of elimination would be a truly sysiphean task ☺️
Same problem with the scanning here, crashes to home screen every time in the middle of scanning.
Same here crashes scanning midi route (instrument)
I think it varies with devices and number of plugins; I got it every time on Kaspar on my (admittedly elderly) iPad Pro 9.7", but it has no problem with Kaspar on my daughter's 12.9" running (almost) the same version of iOS 13. (That hosting works at all on 13.x is something of a bonus, though.)
also here hangs on the “ scanning midi route (instrument)”
Ipad pro 10.5, ios 15.0.2
Inside AUM when I want to play anything the counter starts under the stop button, but there is no movement or sound whatsoever, tried mixes from 20, 21 or make a new flow, nothing works
Working in AUM for me, even on my ancient iOS 13.5 device. Maybe check the Audio MIDI+ settings (under the gearwheel at top right)? – make sure the "WAE For Sounds & FX and Hosted Plug-ins" box is checked.
Thanks for the info, but WAE For Sounds & FX is checked.
Must be another reason, if it works by you it must be a user error, I’ll keep looking. (Also tried a reboot)
Not necessarily – the AUv3 is a complex beast and I've only tested it on quite elderly devices and systems. And there'll be some unsquashed bugs in this first release, so it's worth logging any issues here for @impete's benefit. (For my part I can't for the life of me remember how I stopped the crash-on-plugin-scan every time it got to Kaspar; it's doing it again now in the updated free version and all I know is that I did find a solution…)
I thought maybe the reason for auv3 not working is because you need to start up the standalone at least once, I know it’s a requirement for some auv3 apps, but in the end I know far too little about these things and will wait for and rely on more knowledgeable people (like you)
Crashes for me during the scan for AUs, shortly after launch.. stand-alone mode. Waiting for fix… 😞
Hi! Which AUv3 did it hang-up on?!
Pete
Same for me on an iPad- the plugin where it initially happened each time is MIDI Route (instrument) - an Audioveek plugin and part of his 'MIDI tools' set - I see other users have had the same issue. I deleted this plugin and loaded Wotja again - this time it got further but then crashed on Atom 2 - another Audioveek app so maybe some clues there?
I'm also getting similar problems at start up on my Mac - same symptoms - scanning plugins starts, then at some point it crashes - I can't see which plugin causes it, but I've got over 200 AUv2 'component' plugins.
Thanks for that! Hopefully there is a clear pattern I can spot.
It is amazing to me how many plugins so many of you have!!
Pete