MIDI Tape Recorder released! (sample accurate, MPE, free and open source)

espiegel123

@Gavinski said:

@espiegel123 said:

@Gavinski said:


Could anyone explain to me what I might be doing wrong here? I think my routing is ok, but in MTR I am only getting a flashing green light on the right side (output), not on the left (input) when I play with the seaboard. Hence cannot record anything.

That should work. Have you tried rebooting?

If the output light is flashing but not the input light, that is strange.

What OS version?

15.5

I will try a reboot, if that doesn't work I'll try a reinstall, cheers!

Also double-check the controller direct to Noise in case the controller is set up funny.

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GeertBevin

@winconway said:
Not sure why the developer is claiming sample accuracy on this?
Real desktop DAW developers have long since removed this claim from their advertising because it is impossible, completely impossible, MIDI can NEVER be sample accurate, part of its own spec has to introduce latency because of the narrow bandwidth of it's interface.
As an example, every MIDI note has 1ms of latency, that is built in to the spec itself, break this and a lot of MIDI hardware will just crumble with your messages.

Because AUv3 MIDI is sample accurate, the 1ms latency is DIN MIDI from yesteryear. If MIDI is generated through for instance AUv3 controller apps and MIDI generators, the same accuracy will be preserved end to end.

Gavinski

The power of the reboot, my god, thnx @espiegel123

Edward_Alexander

@eross said:
cool i forgot about this app

Same here!

Looking back over the last 6 months or so, I can recall dozens of scenarios where MTR would have been extremely useful, where I instead ended up recording (and committing) midi to audio in Loopy Pro and such.

cazel

theres a window resize issue in Live11.2.5 -might be Ventura related-
can anyone else confirm?

SpookyZoo

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SpookyZoo

Hi @GeertBevin Loving the functionality of MIDI Tape Recorder in my latest setup, thanks.

I have noticed a bug though.

There is strange behaviour with the MIDI binding for Track 1's Record Enable button. The bindings for Track 2-4 are all fine and work as expected.

I have tried using various 'safe' CC numbers and get the same behaviour.

This is when using MTR within AUM. I haven't tried in other DAWS. Is there a know issue with this?

The strange thing is the binding for T1 will only work if I hit my MIDI button for T2 at the same time. It's really weird and hard to explain. I'll see if I can upload a video over the weekend.

Anyone else have a moment sometime to test this? (no rush!)

Cheers.

espiegel123

@SpookyZoo said:
Hi @GeertBevin Loving the functionality of MIDI Tape Recorder in my latest setup, thanks.

I have noticed a bug though.

There is strange behaviour with the MIDI binding for Track 1's Record Enable button. The bindings for Track 2-4 are all fine and work as expected.

I have tried using various 'safe' CC numbers and get the same behaviour.

This is when using MTR within AUM. I haven't tried in other DAWS. Is there a know issue with this?

The strange thing is the binding for T1 will only work if I hit my MIDI button for T2 at the same time. It's really weird and hard to explain. I'll see if I can upload a video over the weekend.

Anyone else have a moment sometime to test this? (no rush!)

Cheers.

It is working fine for me in loopy pro. Perhaps, you could post screenshots of sol the related setup screens.

SpookyZoo

Thanks for checking Ed. I'll get some visuals together and post up here tomorrow. Cheers.

espiegel123

Also working for me in AUM

I set up a button that sends cc0 to control Rec 1

wim

@SpookyZoo said:
Anyone else have a moment sometime to test this? (no rush!)

Working as expected here. Setup similar to @espiegel123 's screenshots except I also tried setting the button to send CC 0 value 127. I have cycle enabled for the AUM parameter so that the first press arms and the second un-arms.

SpookyZoo

Thanks guys. I appreciate you double checking this.

I believe there must be a rogue element in my setup as the binding is working as expected this morning.

However the issue itself has popped up half a dozen times or so. I actually posted it about this the day before and then deleted my post as it had started working again. (Again)

I'll pop back and update once I've worked out the bad actor. Cheers!

wim

Sometimes conflicts are lurking in global vs. local profiles.

Tones4Christ

I am completely blown away! Forgot I had this super awesome Midi Recorder!
@Samu I think this is the "Always On" midi recorder we were looking for!

Just increase the recording length to whatever you want and set the track to be record ready when you play and Bam! Save it as a preset and it will be ready next time!

I recall there was a way to setup a threshold level but that might have been another app. But so far I really like this little Gem!

Dav

MIDI Tape recorder is one of my favorite music making apps! Its where most of my songs start. I run 2 instances of it when 4 tracks aren’t enough, and they play together fine. The only problems i’ve come across is that the saved MIDI files it creates dont seem to play back correctly when i play them on my laptop. But that may be the laptop problem not fully understanding whatever midi file version they are.

Tones4Christ

Yep, I am really super grateful for this app. Not sure if it's still Free but it's totally worth it for the setup of Always ON Record. I guess one must set it up first then save it as a preset in AUM but it's nice to know it's recording in the background everything you're playing thru it.

@Dav said:
MIDI Tape recorder is one of my favorite music making apps! Its where most of my songs start. I run 2 instances of it when 4 tracks aren’t enough, and they play together fine. The only problems i’ve come across is that the saved MIDI files it creates dont seem to play back correctly when i play them on my laptop. But that may be the laptop problem not fully understanding whatever midi file version they are.

wim

Midi Tape Recorder is $9.99 US now. Still a bargain even at that price.

fwiw, Loopy Pro either as a host or a plugin is a viable option as an always on midi recorder now. You don't have to specify a buffer size in advance either. I've found it to be as accurate as MTR (as far as I can tell) for even challenging recording such as Animoog Z's MPE output.

Dav

I keep forgetting it cost now. Was lucky to get it free. If i had to pay $10 for it now I sure would. I love using it on my ipod touch because of the big simple controls, I can easily press them quickly when playing/recording my solo piano gigs.

Tones4Christ

Oh wow! That is sooo amazing 👏
I haven't had a chance to set it up for something like this; but if anyone has a pre-made Loopy Pro template with as an "Always ON midi recording" setup, that would be so cool to have. I love LP for it's creative power!

@wim said:
Midi Tape Recorder is $9.99 US now. Still a bargain even at that price.

fwiw, Loopy Pro either as a host or a plugin is a viable option as an always on midi recorder now. You don't have to specify a buffer size in advance either. I've found it to be as accurate as MTR (as far as I can tell) for even challenging recording such as Animoog Z's MPE output.

wim

@Tones4Christ said:
Oh wow! That is sooo amazing 👏
I haven't had a chance to set it up for something like this; but if anyone has a pre-made Loopy Pro template with as an "Always ON midi recording" setup, that would be so cool to have. I love LP for it's creative power!

@wim said:
Midi Tape Recorder is $9.99 US now. Still a bargain even at that price.

fwiw, Loopy Pro either as a host or a plugin is a viable option as an always on midi recorder now. You don't have to specify a buffer size in advance either. I've found it to be as accurate as MTR (as far as I can tell) for even challenging recording such as Animoog Z's MPE output.

That could be a very simple template depending on how you would want to work with it. I mean, it could be something as simple as a single midi loop with "auto count-out" turned off so that it'll just run and you would just clear it out when you don't want the buffer any more. But there are many workflows that one might want to have.

@espiegel123 made something more sophisticated for audio, but some of the features of that one are to accommodate larger audio recording sizes and to be able to incorporate the recording into a jam, I think. With midi, as you mentioned, storage requirements are small, and you were thinking of simply something to preserve ideas.

Details would be better taken up in a thread started for that purpose.

Tones4Christ

Thanks Wim; I'll do that. So grateful to have you here brother!

@wim said:

@Tones4Christ said:
Oh wow! That is sooo amazing 👏
I haven't had a chance to set it up for something like this; but if anyone has a pre-made Loopy Pro template with as an "Always ON midi recording" setup, that would be so cool to have. I love LP for it's creative power!

@wim said:
Midi Tape Recorder is $9.99 US now. Still a bargain even at that price.

fwiw, Loopy Pro either as a host or a plugin is a viable option as an always on midi recorder now. You don't have to specify a buffer size in advance either. I've found it to be as accurate as MTR (as far as I can tell) for even challenging recording such as Animoog Z's MPE output.

That could be a very simple template depending on how you would want to work with it. I mean, it could be something as simple as a single midi loop with "auto count-out" turned off so that it'll just run and you would just clear it out when you don't want the buffer any more. But there are many workflows that one might want to have.

@espiegel123 made something more sophisticated for audio, but some of the features of that one are to accommodate larger audio recording sizes and to be able to incorporate the recording into a jam, I think. With midi, as you mentioned, storage requirements are small, and you were thinking of simply something to preserve ideas.

Details would be better taken up in a thread started for that purpose.

Squishy

I’ve just been using helium: route whatever instrument(s) I’m using to it, hit record, and (usually) forget about it. Does this Tape Recorder one have other features and stuff that warrant picking it up?

Dav

@Squishy said:
I’ve just been using helium: route whatever instrument(s) I’m using to it, hit record, and (usually) forget about it. Does this Tape Recorder one have other features and stuff that warrant picking it up?

Helium is great. I also have it and use it often. The main feature I think of MidiTapeRecorder is MPE recording and the simple and easy 4-track feel of using it, which is something that I love.

Edit: But it cannot edit midi data at all, it just records and plays back as recorded, like a tape recorder.

Squishy

@Dav said:

@Squishy said:
I’ve just been using helium: route whatever instrument(s) I’m using to it, hit record, and (usually) forget about it. Does this Tape Recorder one have other features and stuff that warrant picking it up?

Helium is great. I also have it and use it often. The main feature I think of MidiTapeRecorder is MPE recording and the simple and easy 4-track feel of using it, which is something that I love.

Oh snap, MPE?! Noted, thanks!