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However, that is a developer decision. They CAN also include it should they choose to. I mean, the sequencer in Beathawk works just fine when loaded as an AU. Even song mode works as expected from the stand-alone/IAA version. I assume that is because the Beathawk devs decided to include the full thing.
Audiobus does save IAA state, in fact this is one of a myriad of reasons why I still use it.
I answered no on the poll because an AUv3 doesn't need to have IAA support in any way.
It would be very nice if Apple would undeprecate IAA though. AUv3 isn't a replacement for IAA. IAA is similar to Jack or ReWire and since Apple won't let a user install something that would replace IAA, they need to support it and keep it working.
I agree that some form of host to host communication is needed whether it is IAA or something new and better. Some apps make sense as hosts not plugins and they really should be able to communicate.
Yes. Audiobus can save/restore IAA state, but I believe only if the app cooperates by using the Audiobus SDK as required. Some apps mention Audiobus in their AppStore descriptions for this reason.
Yeah, the Audiobus state-saving is an Audiobus SDK feature not an IAA feature (that applies to those IAA that implement it).
Whatever the reason, it’s awesome! 🥳
I’ve been hoping for that for a long time.
@benkamen can you confirm if you are asking if Patterning was a host app should it support IAA as well as AUv3? Or are you asking if Patterning was an AUv3 instrument should it also come with the standalone IAA version?
Patterning as an AUv3 instrument would be amazing! 👍
Patterning as a host could be interesting. What's great is how well patterning uses and looks like in full screen. But agree also that Patterning as an AU would rock. I don't use IAA at all anymore.
I guess it could be both like Drambo and Loopy Pro, etc.?
Yup, exactly my thought. 😄
And if all three provided 8 IAA output ports, just like AUM, I'd be in heaven!
Can neither confirm nor deny, just kidding, yeah okay, I’m trying to navigate the best way forward for Patterning as an AUv3 instrument plug in.
So yeah the question is specifically about whether an AU plug in (not host) should also support IAA when in standalone mode.
I do still like the idea of Patterning as host, as well, but I think that’s gonna have to happen later… like patterning 4 or something.
I have to tear apart a lot of the very old 2014-era audio code, so I’m trying to sort out what my requirements should be as I do that. Ultimately it might not be a huge deal to support both, but I don’t want to waste a bunch of time supporting something that isn’t necessary.
I personally have never used IAA for any project. I don't even purchase an app if it doesn't support AUv3 hosting or can't be used as one itself. It just fits my workflow better that way.
Drambo: unlikely
Loopy Pro: on the roadmap
Patterning: ?
Well, Godspeed to you! 🙂
We’re cheering you on here.
the way I look at it is keep you old ipads with the old apps and then everything works fine from the time period they were from and your newest ipad keeps up with the times but those oldies but goodies remain on your old ipad and phones
I'm thinking the best thing to do with the standalone app to get it past review would be to make a mini game that had IAP for hats. That'd push it right through.
Seriously though, I wouldn't do IAA now for the container app for an AUv3. That's only going to cause a support issue when Apple does pull IAA.
To answer the updated question, I would say not for me as I’m not using anything other than AUv3 apps now.
FYI There will still be a fully functional standalone app.
@benkamen : even though I still use great IAA apps (like patterning) for which there isn’t an AU, I don’t use the IAA versions when an AU version exists.
At some point AUs should have the ability for fullscreen , until then standalone or IAA thru AB3
I voted "yes", because there's no way I can make Cubasis 3 sound good over Bluetooth headphones without hosting it as an output in Audiobus, lol. (Everything sounds tinny coming out of Cubasis 3 without hosting it in Audiobus over Bluetooth).
FWIW I stopped using IAA long before Apple deprecated it. For must-have apps like Patterning, Samplr, Chordion, and pre-update Koala, I just exported WAVs or split the audio out of a screen recording. And at this moment, I don’t have ANY non-AU instruments or effects installed (although I’ve been thinking about Chordion and will undoubtedly revisit it in standalone before long).
I’m nothing near a power user, but having to swap back and forth between fullscreen apps bothered me more and more as the years wore on.
Can’t wait to see Patterning go AU!
Cubasis does not provide AUv3. Unless you have another reason, I think your vote should have been "no".
The poll asks if any app that provides AUv3 (e.g., DrumComputer) needs to also support IAA.
Oh fuck, I misunderstood the question. Then in that case, no. If an app functions within a host as AUv3, then indeed there's no need for it to function as an IAA also.