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Question About Guitars Frets
I don't know why, but I destroy my frets very quickly. My next guitar will be will stainless steel frets. Why it's not the norm for all guitar? It's probably way harder to install, but way better for the guitar player.
Is there a reason why I should avoid stainless steel frets?
Any guitar suggestion? 1K or less.
Thanks.
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No reason from the players standpoint. Guitar makers tend to use other materials because stainless is more difficult to work with and harder on tools.
If you have a guitar you already like, have you considered having it re-fretted?
They tend to be very expensive and push the price of guitars up. It’s also expensive to get a neck re-fretted with them.
On the other hand, they last forever, so shouldn’t need a refret.
If you have a Fender-style guitar with a bolt-on neck, you should consider getting a custom-built Warmoth neck with steel frets, that’s if the guitar’s good enough quality. I have two so far, they’re phenomenal, super-fast and slippery, if you go with a satin finish. Almost like playing air guitar, only sound comes out…
I have one guitar with the stainless steel frets. I did a little fret leveling and dressing and I didn't think it was particularly harder to work on then any of my other guitars. It's a Warmoth torrefied maple Strat neck and it feels really nice to play. The SS frets do feel a bit different to bend on, so that could be a reason some people don't like them. They are more expensive and some people may not need them on a particular guitar.
Different types of strings can chew up your frets more or less too. Flat wounds are pretty easy on the frets and I wouldn't spend the extra for tougher frets on the guitars I use them on.
It's too expensive to refret a guitar I think.
This is the guitar I'm lurking:
Shijie guitars seem to have good reviews and unbeatable prices on their stainless steel's series.
Quel est le meilleur commerce en ligne pour les acheter au Canada?
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Depending on where you live, it's not always overly expensive. The problem I had was that I couldn't find anyone close to where I live that I trusted to do my guitar. That's why I started to learn how to do my own fret work.
Surprisingly it’s less difficult than I expected. I only placed fret wires on a new build though. I’ve never removed them.
Maybe I can buy a very cheap guitar to learn, I like the idea!
Luthier sites will offer up all kinds of expensive tools but I haven’t found much necessary. I use a small triangular file with the corner edges ground off, a good strait-edge, and a radiused sanding block. I also have a dead-blow hammer I bought for the purpose, but honestly think I could do it with a mallet practically as well.
It’s not for everyone, for sure. I just like that kind of stuff.
It can be a problem on older dry wood with chipping out and stuff. Or if they were put in with super glue. The first thing I did that was fret related was pull the frets on an Ibanez to make a fretless guitar. That was pretty easy with no real problems. I did have fret pullers though. That made the job pretty easy.
Yeah, a good fret job can make a cheap guitar not so cheap feeling any more too.
Get a guitar with as low action as possible (including nut side), put lighter gauge strings and be mindful not press those strings down too hard!
I’ve been there in my 20’s.
If I don't press too hard, my playing feel sloppy.
Feeling and reality aren’t always the same thing. Go see if you can find any videos of really skilled players who look like the have anything but a feather touch.
( Spoken by someone guilty of not only way too heavy fretting, but of picking and strumming way too hard as well. : D )
Curious if the OP cleans his frets after playing, and gauge and material of the strings he's using. Pure nickel, NPS, SS. String action (string distance from frets) and if he's heavy-handed. And if he's ever had his guitar professionally set-up to his playing style.
My advice is to address the cause of the problem. I understand that after years of playing, changing style can be hard, but IMO that’s ultimately your solution, unless you want to throw money at it.
I reckon it wouldn’t be hard at all, just pay attention to how hard you press and adjust it to the necessary pressure to make a clean sound. Good luck.
What can help you to get a lighter touch, step down to lighter strings. If you press too hard, the note or chord will go out of tune easier, so you have to adapt your pressure.
And I think if you buy a new guitar, or a new neck, for example All Parts, you still need some kind of fret work to get it perfect. So if a refret will cost you aprox. 250-300 euro, and some fretwork 100,- euro, the price difference isn´t that huge anymore.
But I have to admit it is a lot of money, I have a guitar waiting for a new fret job, and I am still hesitating. In the end frets are consumables just like strings and picks.
Replacing frets (and doing it well) seems to be tricky; you might want to get some practice before jumping in on a guitar you care about. I've got a light touch, and have never had to replace frets.
One thing that I've been doing during the pandemic has been building guitars from kits; there are a ton of kits available on-line, and they're surprisingly inexpensive. I've learned a heck of a lot about the innards, and how to set things up, by going through the builds. I'm on my fourth build now (a bass), and I've got another three kits in the pipeline. It's surprisingly fun and relaxing; like playing with Lego, but at the end, you've got a guitar. So far, everything I've built has been playable and sounds good -- as nice as some of the higher-end guitars I've got. Below are Frank, Johnny, and Ricardo, who came from StewMac, Fretwire, and (eBay) Muslady, respectively. You can find kits for less than $100.
I’ve read that working with SS frets is no worse than nickel. And why would it be? It’s not like you’re sculpting them. You're just shoving them into wood. And SS isn’t even the hardest steel. For knives, it’s considered soft.
I have a couple of guitars with stainless frets, had them for years with no noticeable wear.
I also strongly prefer roasted maple necks. They feel great, and are barely affected by humidity changes. I have a DIY Strat with a roasted maple neck, ebony board, SS frets, and finished with oil and wax. It’s one of the best necks I’ve played.
I have a DIY Strat with a roasted maple neck, ebony board, SS frets, and finished with oil and wax. It’s one of the best necks I’ve played.
If I want to buy a guitar like this, do you have a link?
Anyone have any experience with a carbon fiber guitar neck?
https://www.rubato.guitars/neck/
My DIY almost Strat is built from a body and neck from https://warmoth.com and some parts that I got from https://stratosphereparts.com (bridge and tuners) with other hardware from Stew Mac (knobs, jack, plates, strap locks, screws) and some Firebird pickups from a builder in Croatia. Sourcing the parts is half the fun.
Never heard of Rubato, but I've used Steinbergers, Parkers, Brian Moores, and Rain Songs with them. They may have been graphite though, don't remember.
Body and neck came from Warmoth. Highly recommended.
Thanks! There is a LOT of neck and bodys on Warmoth. If I could ask, can you please link me to the part of your guitar? I will buy the exact same thing! I also love the color. Thanks!