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Jens is alive🤟🤟🤟
I wish the old filters would be updated since state saving stopped working like two years ago.
What is the point of the second video? Sounds terrible. This might be an excellent addition, however.
Both videos sound utterly bizarre to me.
Well with the word Superior in it, it has to be good...so says the man of inferior perception
This videos really dont sell it lol
Depends who's listening. They make me very interested.
I'm guessing the second is supposed to have a retro vinyl kind of sound? Not sure, just listened through phone speakers. But the first example sounded excellent to my ears. Incredibly expressive and i would bet it's going to be a lot better at handling high polyphony than Ravenscroft, which while otherwise brilliant, sucks in that regard.
I'll add that i god damn love the playing. Glenn Gould vibes
Or even Rachmaninoff
Yes, there is a lack of immediacy, clipping and a bunch of muddiness in the first, but it does have the promise of a huge concert grand sound, something missing in the current inventory. Too soon to tell, IMO. And where do these videos come from, the dev?
Jax has got a youtube playlist with some of their examples.
They’ve got a Panda piano which is a very compressed light weight piano.
Again it sounds a little muddy in the mid range and lacking in the top end
but in the right hands it does have potential.
Here’s an example
Here’s their youtube.
https://youtube.com/channel/UCfaJ2quPH3AJrUGDx-HY49w
I hope you get a chance to play with it and can share your opinion (and playing!) as our resident piano expert.
The playing in these vids is putting me off. Each to their own but to me it sounds a bit like a piano falling down the stairs. It’d be very useful to hear some individual notes.
Yeah, I love the playing.
@Gavinski I thought that too about the second one re: old tape/vinyl sound.
The first demo sounds pretty good to my old ears.
I like Jens products. This one could be based on his panda piano research project.
Scroll to the last entry here. I like what’s cooking in his lab😎
https://midi.digitster.com/laboratory.html
Me too, it sound very natural to my ears.
This is the opposite of how a piano should be demoed . I once sold jazz piano great Benny Green a Yamaha synclavier. Know how HE demoed it ? Sat down and with one finger played a single note in each octave .
@Gravitas, the grand sounds like the Panda with more reverb.
To be fair I haven’t listened to the Grand as yet.
I came across the Panda videos when looking for news
in regards to Jax a few days ago and found them interesting.
He’s been quiet for quite awhile so it was good
to hear that he’s been busy working on stuff.
Neither of the examples sound good to me.
Is this out already? I was just about to buy pure piano this week but maybe I should look into this one? It sounds nice to my ears. Though maybe not quite as good as PP.
It's heading into a Beta release phase using Apple's Testflight. Get PP... It's really 7 pianos that you can morph between. In a couple months you might be bored and also pick up this app if it gets rave reviews. It seems to be drenched in reverb like it wasn't "close" mic'ed but mic'ed in a very live space. This makes it somewhat limiting unless you crave the concert stage experience in your recordings. We have yet to hear it played quietly with just a few notes sounding so we can dig into it's sonic timbre. So far we know it can sustain a lot of notes at one time and play damn loud in a large space: Good for some pyrotechnic styles
but how does it do accompanying a singer... navigating a ballad... playing "Clare the Lune".
@HotStrange, I still recommend Ravenscroft or PurePiano. This app, if it actually sounds better, would be good for a track that needs a big concert style sound… maybe. It does have string resonance, so it seems like a lot of work was put into it. From what I’ve heard so far it doesn’t seem to have a lot of versatility.
I like JAX Make Louder and use it often, but this is a really untested product, unlike Ravenscroft and PurePiano.
Here’s another demo with more variety where you can hear individual tones more clearly.
If you read the description, it seems that it’s only using 50 MB of samples, which is impressive. However, the sound isn’t for me. There’s some funky unnatural stuff going on with some of the bass notes, and over all it’s a bit dull for my taste. However, the Steinway “German D” in Synthogy Ivory II has been my daily driver for the past decade, so I’m a bit spoiled.
It has a far away sound, like listening to an old LP.
Thanks for all your help on this. The price of the piano apps has me really wanting to research before I buy, which is why I ask. I’m gonna watch a couple more demos before I make my choice but right now, Pure Piano is in the lead.
Thanks a ton! And good call. I do think PP is gonna be the right one for me. I don’t use pianos super often but enough that I want one that sounds good.
@HotStrange, I just might add that while PurePiano is great sounding that, for me, it is harder to get it to cut thru a mix compared to Ravenscroft. The latter, IMO, is basically a brighter, tighter, sound…. Which is why I often use Ravenscroft on the treble half of the keyboard in tandem with PurePiano
Try a little of EQ. It doesn't take much.