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Can someone recommend a IOS Drum Machine for 90's Memphis Hardcore.

ImhodefImhodef
in General App Discussion

In the vein of the Dr660, Dr5. I have nearly every 808 clone but the programming is generally a nightmare on ios. I own both the dr 660 and Dr5 but i hate carrying them around with me when I travel. These two drum machines are staples for that sound. Just wondering if IOS has anything to offer, as I am getting closer and closer to getting rid of a lot of my hardware after the Cubasis update BM3 and Loopy Pro. A serious go to Drum Machine is the only thing I'm lacking. I know BM3 is a great drum samplers, but I don't want to rely on dragging samples all the time. I just need bread and butter drum machine that I can always pull up and track out

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  • ImhodefImhodef

    here's a good demo of the 660 and DR5 in that genre

  • GravitasGravitas

    I would recommend Electribe Wave, Hammerhead
    and Drambo straight of the top of my head.

    Electribe Wave has limited sample storage space.
    Drambo you have to build your own, once configured
    it’s always good to go.and Hammerhead is load up and play.

  • ImhodefImhodef
    edited February 2022

    @Gravitas said:
    I would recommend Electribe Wave, Hammerhead
    and Drambo straight of the top of my head.

    Electribe Wave has limited sample storage space.
    Drambo you have to build your own, once configured
    it’s always good to go.and Hammerhead is load up and play.

    Bought Drambo. Still learning it. The learning curve is insane due to my schedule.. I know its crazy powerful, but its like it came to fruition from Stephen Hawking's brain on Acid surrounded by grooveboxes

  • GravitasGravitas

    @Imhodef said:

    @Gravitas said:
    I would recommend Electribe Wave, Hammerhead
    and Drambo straight of the top of my head.

    Electribe Wave has limited sample storage space.
    Drambo you have to build your own, once configured
    it’s always good to go.and Hammerhead is load up and play.

    Bought Drambo. Still learning it. The learning curve is insane due to my schedule.. I know its crazy powerful, but its like is came to fruition from Stephen Hawking's brain on Acid surrounded by grooveboxes

    Lolololol.
    I hear you in regards to drambo.
    As you have drambo already, simply put Flexisamplers on each track
    and load up the samples and use the sequencer tracks without
    getting into all the other mind bending, multi-universe stuff
    and are you playing out now?
    If so good hear.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @Imhodef said:

    here's a good demo of the 660 and DR5 in that genre

    Ahh so that’s 90’s Memphis hardcore.
    Yeah drambo can easily do this.

    For ease of use Electribe Wave is really straight forward and the learning curve is minimal
    and here’s a link to a website that has loads of drum machine samples.
    It’s donation based so you can download for free but it’s cool if you can donate.

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

  • ImhodefImhodef
    edited February 2022

    @Gravitas said:

    @Imhodef said:

    here's a good demo of the 660 and DR5 in that genre

    Ahh so that’s 90’s Memphis hardcore.
    Yeah drambo can easily do this.

    For ease of use Electribe Wave is really straight forward and the learning curve is minimal
    and here’s a link to a website that has loads of drum machine samples.
    It’s donation based so you can download for free but it’s cool if you can donate.

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    Big Thanks.
    The Yamaha RY30 set is perfect. I have electro wave in my Gadget module, so I apparently bought it but deleted it for some reason. I will def donate. Its really a great set of samples from some great hardware. Downloading the electro wave standalone again. Got some holiday time next month, so I'll try to sink my teeth into Drambo as well. Again, thanks for the quick reply. Awesome community!!

  • GravitasGravitas

    @Imhodef said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @Imhodef said:

    here's a good demo of the 660 and DR5 in that genre

    Ahh so that’s 90’s Memphis hardcore.
    Yeah drambo can easily do this.

    For ease of use Electribe Wave is really straight forward and the learning curve is minimal
    and here’s a link to a website that has loads of drum machine samples.
    It’s donation based so you can download for free but it’s cool if you can donate.

    https://samples.kb6.de/downloads.php

    Big Thanks.
    The Yamaha RY30 set is perfect. I have electro wave in my Gadget module, so I apparently bought it but deleted it for some reason. I will def donate. Its really a great set of samples from some great hardware. Downloading the electro wave standalone again. Got some holiday time next month, so I'll try to sync my teeth into Drambo as well. Again, thanks for the quick reply. Awesome community!!

    If you have any questions in regards to any of those apps give me a holla.
    I’m quite au fait with them now.
    No problem.

    Enjoy.

  • RajahPRajahP

  • GravitasGravitas

    @CapnWillie said:
    DrumComputer or DrumLab

    Nice one.
    dRumComputer is a really fun “drum machine”.
    I would’ve said dRumComputer but the kick drums are little bit too soft,
    saying that, it maybe what the OP requires as the dr-660 video example
    has a soft kick drum and Drumcomputer’s rolls are really quick to draw in.
    Drumlab is okay, even though it seems simple it requires a lot to get ohhmfff
    without it going straight into distortion.
    Again it’s about choice.

    Good recommendations.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @CapnWillie said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @CapnWillie said:
    DrumComputer or DrumLab

    Nice one.
    dRumComputer is a really fun “drum machine”.
    I would’ve said dRumComputer but the kick drums are little bit too soft,
    saying that, it maybe what the OP requires as the dr-660 video example
    has a soft kick drum and Drumcomputer’s rolls are really quick to draw in.
    Drumlab is okay, even though it seems simple it requires a lot to get ohhmfff
    without it going straight into distortion.
    Again it’s about choice.

    Good recommendations.

    I’ve heard the soft kick drums criticism a lot. I don’t really buy in to it these days myself. They adjusted the sound engine early on before also added ability to load your own samples. I agreed the factory kicks and resonator/tube/saturator features weren’t sufficient for thick kicks when we had nothing but their sounds and what they’re synth engine could make but now… how soft kicks are is largely up to the user. IMO, what you get out of DC is more to do with what you put in.

    Yeah, I had heard the criticism myself and then I delved even deeper
    into the factory sounds and yeah the factory sounds don’t have that front edge thunk
    to them but saying that I haven’t loaded up my own samples either so there’s that.
    I’ve done loads of patterns and stuff that can be developed into full tracks
    using it so no complaints here at all.
    It’s a seriously fun drum machine I must say.
    I wrote up quite an extensive review on the App store for it. 😁

    In terms of fun, immediacy, sequencing drums, rolls and also synthesizing your own drums it’s so great.

    Once again agreed.

    Some say hard on cpu tho.

    On an older machine certainly.
    I can only run one instance on my 9.7” ipad pro 1st gen
    alongside another app or within AUM as well as playing other stuff
    but on my Air 3 I can run more instances for sure.

    One thing that bothers me is just 8 voices. Why do so many drum machines limit you to 8 vs 16.

    I suppose it’s because when you’re layering drums it can get a bit too much.
    Saying that horses for courses and all that.
    I simply run another instance or layer up another drum machine when I need more voices.

    Also file management for your own samples within it suck 🥴

    This is the precise reason why I haven’t imported my own samples yet.
    It’s the one downside of dRumComputer.
    Across devices, awesome.
    Playability lovely.
    File management???? “appropriate insert expletive” so tedious. ahhhh😁

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @Gravitas
    You can use drum computer in a midi slot and pipe the sequencer to another drum machine or sample holder player.

    Digistix has a built in sequencer by to get a groove or just quickly get things going I like using DrumComputer.

    Digistix does have decent sample management and 4 levels of multi sample velocity. The two make good partners.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @CapnWillie said:
    All points agreed @Gravitas

    I like the second instance idea for when more voices are needed. Should be simple to map to an external 16/64 pad controller or to drive bm3 pads via midi.

    I tend to use BM3 multi-timbrally on my older device and mix both idevice outputs.
    The Air 3 does a lot of the heavy lifting these days.
    It’s very easy to map to an external 16/64 pad controller.
    I have the Launchpad X and it does me good.

    Well, there’s the cpu tax but I don’t think that’ll be an issue on m1 models.

    Agreed.
    Even with the Air 3 one can get really good sounding results.
    Eventually I’ll get an M1 for sure but at the moment
    I have all of my idevices hooked up.
    My iphone SE for guitar effects and occasionally synth duties.
    The two ipads for full on production and I can route audio out
    to my compressors for that analog sound.
    It’s a lovely little system and fully portable for when it’s time for me
    to perform which fingers crossed is going to be very soon at this rate.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @audiblevideo said:
    @Gravitas
    You can use drum computer in a midi slot and pipe the sequencer to another drum machine or sample holder player.

    Yup, fully aware of this.
    I use dRumComputer as is.

    Digistix has a built in sequencer by to get a groove or just quickly get things going I like using DrumComputer.

    Digistix does have decent sample management and 4 levels of multi sample velocity. The two make good partners.

    That’s very interesting.
    I haven’t really looked at Digistix but I’ll give it a look.
    I’ve recently got back behind the drum kit so at the moment
    I personally am not really looking at drum machines.
    I’m looking at setting up microphones and sampling my playing. 😁

  • GravitasGravitas

    @CapnWillie said:

    @Gravitas said:

    @CapnWillie said:
    All points agreed @Gravitas

    I like the second instance idea for when more voices are needed. Should be simple to map to an external 16/64 pad controller or to drive bm3 pads via midi.

    I tend to use BM3 multi-timbrally on my older device and mix both idevice outputs.
    The Air 3 does a lot of the heavy lifting these days.
    It’s very easy to map to an external 16/64 pad controller.
    I have the Launchpad X and it does me good.

    Well, there’s the cpu tax but I don’t think that’ll be an issue on m1 models.

    Agreed.
    Even with the Air 3 one can get really good sounding results.
    Eventually I’ll get an M1 for sure but at the moment
    I have all of my idevices hooked up.
    My iphone SE for guitar effects and occasionally synth duties.
    The two ipads for full on production and I can route audio out
    to my compressors for that analog sound.
    It’s a lovely little system and fully portable for when it’s time for me
    to perform which fingers crossed is going to be very soon at this rate.

    Sorry if you’ve shared this before but I’m really interested in your BM3 rig. I have another iPad Pro and a few old minis and iPhones laying around. I should probably put them to use by making them sound/midi generators and xy pads with BM3 and Loopy as the brains on my main ipad.

    No worries.

    First things first.

    Do you have a mixer, external audio interfaces and midi usb cables
    which makes it far easier and here’s a diagram showing how my rig is connected.

    Id like to get more out of my newest ipad. It’s got a better battery, screen, processor and access to more sounds, sequencers, effects, etc than any of the standalones I’ve spent the last two years using. Back to ipad/BM3 with an open mind toward piecing together the perfect standalone rig that seamlessly exports neat projects for further attention on desktop when necessary.

    Yeah, running ipads side by side is easily doable even if you don’t have the aforementioned.

  • senhorlampadasenhorlampada

    @Imhodef said:
    I know BM3 is a great drum samplers, but I don't want to rely on dragging samples all the time.

    If you setup one time, just save as a bank and you're good. Maybe even save a template/starter project with this bank already loaded.

    The same could apply to something like Beathawk or iMPC, i'm almost sure.

    I did this with multiple samples I got online and older BM2 banks for classic drum machines. I setup multiple pages with a different machine in each of them. Some deserved some labeling I didn't do back then :lol: :tongue:

    As an example of a template file...
    I got one setup with a section and chord progression marker, with FAC Maxima already in the master channel and all 8 AUX pre-labeled for Drums, Bass, etc

  • jolicojolico

    Hammerhead:
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hammerhead-rhythm-station/id1568699989

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