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Sorry - I thought you were serious. My error.
Does everyone think social media is progress? Internet is amazing, but social media is a proliferation of addictive candy that is there to do one thing only and that is to make you come back for more. It’s not an age thing and young people don’t have the monopoly on TiK Tok. But we really need to understand the real impact this is having on real lives, face to face communication is getting whittled down to the point that I worry so much about the future for our children and grandchildren. I am a bit older but have been programming since the 80s and have many years of watching progress, a lot of good… but some aspects are not progress, short form snippets are eroding our attention. When was the last time you seen young people reading an actual book without their phone? We need to wake up, and start to look around and be present in a real world.
Apologies, I have a massive concern on this and tried hard to keep quiet, but I genuinely have concerns for the future.
We are not always ready for the speed of technology.
“The real problem of humanity is the following: We have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions and godlike technology. And it is terrifically dangerous, and it is now approaching a point of crisis overall.”
― Edward O. Wilson
I think the labeling ("ageist") confused the response as an attack. But there's something in the response worth considering.
A young person can not like some new media because they might see it as an addictive attention trap.
For me I'm somewhat cautious about addictive media... as a rule I have stopped regularly watching sports,
playing any video games but must admit I have fallen prey to the addictive discourse here, twitter and YouTube for "what's happening now" and "what do my peers think about this new thing".
I have tried to hook my kids (now in their 30's) on things I was addicted to and sometimes they try to introduce new "addictions" to me. Embracing the request often deepens the relationship. I dug in an found real value by listening to all the "My Chemical Romance" records and watching "Supernatural" with one daughter while the other started asking me questions about Python programming and Data Science.
Prioritizing the effective use of our time and not just staying distracted is such an important life skill at all ages.
Being 71, I try to keep my mind active because it's under constant attack by the aging process. After getting Covid, I suspect I have lost a lot of ground recently. I really don't recommend it to anyone. Improve your odds of not suffering long term impacts at any age too. Check out the impact of Covid on "Physics Girl":
It's a Youtube "short" which is a by-product of TikTok and the short attention span syndrome of modern life.
All of humankind is not some uniform mass. We are all individuals. If large numbers of individuals are unable to communicate, compete with others, reproduce or manage their own lives, this is natural selection at work. It has always been this way. Individual ways which to not lead to good outcomes are probably more common than not, you just never saw them as clearly as you can see them now.
A lot of good points in here, my friend. But my comment was really just an ironic take on the old trope (which really does go back to ancient times, we have the written proof in literature and letters) that as people get older they (most of us anyway) inevitably fall out with the world constantly and ever more dynamically changing around them. This is pretty much a fact, I think, and says nothing about whether social media or any new thing invented in history is good or bad.
I think tiktok is crap, and I have good, logical arguments to support my view. But young generations don't care, and they are right. If it's a fad it will go - if it isn't, they will find a way to keep some good parts of it and build it into their future. No generation is perfect, but on balance each one tends to make better decisions than the previous ones imho - otherwise we would still live in caves. 🙂
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TikTok found a gap in the market and took advantage of it. While it does have overlap with other social media, it’s proven to be difficult to predict the market share winner a couple of years out for most social media, so it’s probably not the winner due to being the ‘best’ at something.
It’s generally not a good idea to try to predict popularity, and a very bad one to ignore the ephemeral nature of social media platforms. Anyone still remember their MySpace login details?
Remember BBS’ on the web? Then The Well? Then CompuServe? Then AOL? Then web browsers? Then (much later) the new walled gardens, aka “social media”?
I find it incomprehensible that they do not understand that watching a video, an advertisement, or a 30-second commercial and then repeating the process does not work. You can either do it like TikTok or Instagram Story Views kaufen, but on YouTube, I find all of these videos immediately unappealing. And even though I am aware that YouTube was previously dumbing me down, this kind of content is so glaringly evident that it actually helps. It simply amazes me that they have to try it first to comprehend. But who can say? Perhaps there are enough individuals who read the shorter ones as well.
It’s just a tool for China to wage psychological warfare on western youth (mostly), playing the long game so future western leaders will be drooling idiots raised on degenerate bullshit and thus more easily manipulated. This is old news at this point.
I watch 8 to 10 hour videos of rain in the forest
My Facebook news feed has degenerated to total garbage. Facebook's AI makes no sense: "oh, you follow the Linnstrument group, the Spark amp group - clearly you must want to read lots of clickbait stories about how people screwed over their bosses at work. Not just one of those stories, but dozens of them every day". There may well be a large group of people who are interested in Linnstrument, Spark amps AND screwing over their bosses, but I'm not part of that group.
Twitter - I used to scan it for breaking and hyper-local news, but these days I seem to get every single post and retweet from Elon Musk and very little else. Again, the signal:noise ratio is too small for me to bother with.
Quora - used to be a great question-and-answer site, with lots of interesting discussion and true experts sharing their knowledge. Now it's a cesspit of bot-generated questions, stupid questions ("Is Botswana better than Ethiopia?"), and crazy right wing mouth breathers ("Now that we all know President Trump was innocent of everything, should libtards apologise for their entire existence?"). Personally I get tons of questions about the Bible, abortion rights, Trump, The Beatles, US health insurance, ... - none of which particularly interest me. 2-3 years ago, I was getting questions about things that were genuinely interesting to me, but no more
Back to the point: I think social media eventually alienates everyone who uses it, except for the social extremists who seek to have their crazy world views constantly reinforced. Social media AI seems to be optimised to send more and more content on an ever-narrowing set of topics; that's fine in a work domain where people tend to specialise more and more over time, but not for social interactions.
Most peoples' interests span a ton of different, often uncorrelated domains, but social media constantly tries to send them more and more targeted content based on what they've learned about you in the past: that's a recipe for eventually driving people away through boredom, while retaining the crazies.
Maybe the answer is to keep hitting reset - creating new social media identities whenever the content you're being sent turns to crap?
I log onto FB once a week just to check for instant messages.
I never tried tik tok for the same reasons I was too scared to ever try meth or heroin.
I also had to delete Instagram. The only reason I even DLd instagram last year was to stay current with Beatsurfing 2 progress. I was watching other music related stuff and skating videos. The minute I clicked on some cleavage my feed became inundated with the like, despite clicking not interested repeatedly on the content.
No doubt clarity is there but what worries me is that the majority of the information is garbage, made up information to influence to drive big corporation agendas… most people don’t get this. Just look at the US general election where Trump was elected and the Brexit campaign in the U.K. which was all a farce. What game did social media play in this and how many knew what was really going on. I refer to Cambridge analytica and Facebook… do we think this is still not happening? (Don’t want to go down the rabbit hole in this discussion, but do we really think social media is going in the right direction, is our future going to be ruled by algorithms designed specifically to make us do what some large corporation or government agenda states?)
@Blipsford_Baubie said:
That’s exactly why I never bought a cell phone.
I am with you OP 100% and every 30 days I have to tell Youtube to hide shorts from my timeline. I think their proliferation is a direct result of the success of Tik Tok. I have zero interest in short videos on YT.
At the moment Rumble allows more free speech, it does require critical thinking though.
An echo camber for Murrrica rednecks requiere “critical thinking”
Amazing.
Unfortunately the MSM aren’t the bastions of truth, anymore, often owned by billionaires, what version of ‘truth’ do you think they represent. Independent I don’t think so. BTW Rumble hosts a growing number of ‘left wing’ channels too, but if you like your content ‘curated’ it’s your choice.
I think we should relax. This is not the first time that a new type of media reception appears and especially young people terribly overdo it. In the late 18th century a phenomenon took off: the novel addiction. The novel was a new form of literature at the time. Many young people, especially young women, developed a kind of addiction to reading novels. Some couldn’t stop reading, sometimes until exhaustion. They forgot all their duties over reading novels. It was said that they couldn’t differentiate fiction from reality anymore. Most people were certain that novels were spoiling the youth. Lending libraries were seen as the breeding ground for novel addiction. In Germany, Goethe‘s novel „Werther“ from 1774, a novel about a young man whose dramatic life drove him to suicide, was accused to have sparked off a wave of suicide among young novel readers. A public outcry demanded censoring Goethe‘s novel.
Well, nowadays the novel is a normal form of literature, Goethe is seen as one of Germany‘s greatest writers. Every German reads some of Goethe‘s novels at school. Going regularly to a lending library is a virtue. True, at the time people were overdoing it but following generations had a different take on it. I think we have no reason to believe it is different in our time. It’s seems to be the mechanics of adopting a new media that there is abusive consumption when it‘s new but later it consolidates and people integrate into their lives what was actually useful.
https://archive.nytimes.com/op-talk.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/when-novels-were-bad-for-you/
Interesting article indeed. Thanks for the link.
True.
The reading of novels leads to quite a bad end for Emma Bovary!
It’s a difficult debate to have, as on one hand there’s less censorship, but on the other hand there’s rampant misinformation and conspiracy theories. Considering how gullible people have become (particularly here in the US), I think I’m happy to see private companies step in and shut that crap down on their platforms.
However, on the other hand I see as well as anyone else how mainstream news is filtered compared to how it was a few decades ago. Neither ‘free speech’ on uncensored platforms or media moguls with an agenda are good for mass communication.
I agree but the debate is key, not enforcement by government agencies that aren’t transparent, nor by forced mandates from the WEF, but from people, ordinary and extraordinary people. Of course yes, you get wild extreme views ‘conspiracy theories’ often used to ridicule and muddy the sensible viewpoints, but after the ‘water under the bridge’ that has passed, today is revealing some of those weren’t quite as crazy as once portrayed by the MSM. They now are scrambling to regain a narrative that had largely been ceded to more right-wing media sources.
TikTok's popularity has increased the demand for video-based content consumption, which benefits YouTube as well. Viewers who discover content creators on TikTok often seek out their longer-form content on YouTube, resulting in increased viewership and engagement for YouTubers.
TikTok as a rival, YouTube can embrace its unique attributes, leverage its popularity, and explore collaborative opportunities. Together, these platforms can create a vibrant digital ecosystem, enriching the online experience for creators and viewers alike.
After the FB AI started to pester me with sexist short videos of lightly dressed young women, I was looking for a way to get rid of the boobs and bums on my news feed.
Here's a solution to get rid of the annoying "shorts" on YouTube and the "Reels and Short Videos" on Facebook:
Sadly this does not work on an iOS device and I don’t know when they will change things to smuggle videos on your pages again.... And this won't affect advertising!
If you use a chrome based browser, then install the "Custom CSS by Denis" extension.
This extension allows the user to inject CSS code that is usually used to configure a web sites appearance (fonts, alignment of elements etc.) in a website. Here we will use the extension to hide the unwanted content via the display: none; command.
1. Install the extension.
2. Open the website in question (YouTube or Facebook).
3. Open the extension and paste the following code in the editor:
For Facebook:
[aria-label="Reels"] {
display: none;
}
For YouTube:
div#dismissible {display: none;}
CSS savvy people may ask why not add an !important to the stanza. This will mess up the page.
Nah. TikTok is brain cancer.
Get out of here, bot