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Hub and Power to the Pad Help Needed........
Hi,
I use an iPad 12" Pro, it's a 2021 model.
I use Xtone (from XSonic) to run BOTH audio and MIDI into or in thru the single USB C port on the iPad. I play violin and use AUM and some apps to create sounds.
PROBLEM SPACE: I also need a way to charge the iPad as well. It seems some of the synths (like Animoog Z, and others) chew up battery power. Sometimes I play for 3 or 4 hours (when they don't kick me out).
SooOOOooo... in order to use the XTone, AND power the iPad - I "think" I need a hub. I have seen in other posts, a good recommendation for this one by Baseus (link below). PROs: It doesn't "pull" on the USB C port on the iPad.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TWG4F56/
HOWEVER.......I'm not really quite sure how this can charge the iPad? I see there's a "USB-C PD/Charging" port on this, but I'm going to need another cable, correct? "Another" means, in addition to the XTone cable for audio/MIDI - I'll need a cable to connect to this hub to charge the iPad, correct?? And not just another cable, but a power supply for that cable.
There's no choice..... I must have 2 cables going to whatever hub I get, correct? One cable is the Audio/MIDI cable, and the other is for the power. Correct?
I run this Aetos power supply to a small pedalboard for a) the Xtone and b) another MIDI controller - so I can use the A/C output jack to provide power for the iPad, correct?
https://www.amazon.com/Aetos-120V-Clean-Power-Supply/dp/B06Y1TXQRS?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Is the Baseus hub still a top contender? Something that doesn't PULL on the iPad port, and let's me both power it, and run my auido/MIDI into it. Will this Baseus hub add any latency or degrade the audio in/out of the iPad?
Thanks for your help (in Eb)!!
Comments
I think the connection to the iPad should be one of these:
https://forum.audiob.us/uploads/editor/0c/z3wc3fj7x6g6.png
It has:
1) USB-C male to the connect to the iPad
2) USB-C female (which could get power or the Xtone connection)
3) USB-B which could also connect to the Xtone or power
4) an HDMI port (could come in handy, I guess)
I suspect you'll do 2 to the Xtone and 3 to some power source
If you add a powered hub it can carry power and USB traffic over the same cable.
Be very careful here. The USB-C port on this adapter (marked with = ) is for USB-C Power Delivery only. You connect a USB-C power source to it. You cannot use it for data. This module is pretty similar to the old Lightning USB and HDMI adapters combined into one.
If you get a USB-C hub or dock, it may have a similar Power Delivery port. You can feed power from a USB-C power adapter to it and it will power both the hub and (maybe) charge the iPad. You would probably need a more powerful adapter (higher wattage) than the Apple iPad charger, since it needs to power the hub and attached devices as well as the iPad. The hub descriptions usually indicate the power taken by the hub.
If the hub connects to the iPad by a free cable (connectors at both ends), you need to be sure the cable supports Power Delivery. Bargain cables may not. I believe this requires a chip inside the connector to support the power negotiation. Best to buy a cable made by the hub manufacturer to be sure.
I emphasize USB-C Power Delivery here, since it works different from the 5 VDC USB power we all know. The Power Delivery protocol negotiates a higher voltage (up to 20 V, maybe more) between the power source and the iPad. So you cannot use any old DC power supply here; it must support USB-C Power Delivery.
@McD
@uncledave
Thank both of you for the suggestion and the help in assuring I put the power in the CORRECT spot and audio/midi in the CORRECT spot.
One question, and to be honest it's somewhat picky, but equipment isn't cheap (neither are adapters, right). I really liked the physical setup of the adapter that I mentioned: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TWG4F56/
.................BECAUSE........................... it is secured to the iPad and it doesn't HANG DOWN.
I put my iPad on a simple music stand when I play (electric violin, and I stand all the time). It looks like with this adapter, it'll HAND DOWN and pull on the USB C (or whatever the correct nomenclature is) port on the iPad itself? See my picture here
Any thoughts?
Is the adapter you suggested the ONLY one?
Is the one I linked to on Amazon "bad", or since it's not directly from the Apple store, it's sketchy?
Thank you Again!!!
That Baseus hub looks like it should be OK. It has PD and the USB that you need. I've seen it recommended here, specifically because it attaches to the iPad, but connects via that short cable. There are others that actually attach mechanically to the port, which is not really designed to take the weight.
Now, you will need a larger power adapter (larger than the Apple charger), maybe get one with the 60 W the hub supports. And be careful about the cable from the adapter to the hub.