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Sequencer similiar to Arturia‘s Drumbrute Impact et all

Which app comes closest? Mind you I‘m talking about the immediacy of the sequencer!

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  • I don't know how close it is to the DB Impact sequencer but Arturia's iSpark app exists.

    Maybe you downloaded it when it was free at the beginning of the pandemic? Otherwise, it's hard for me to recommend for $20. It's a lot of fun and immediate, but you're basically stuck using it stand alone, with a discontinued controller, or - in my experience - poorly integrated into AB3 via IAA.

    If they made it Auv3 I would use it all the time.

  • 2nd the iSpark suggestion. But as someone who had both a Drumbrute and iOS, I can't think of anything as immediate as the Drumbrute sequencer. The tactile nature of the buttons is the biggest factor.

    That Drumbrute sequencer is a thing of beauty. By far my favorite part of the device. A Beatstep Pro is essentially that sequencer with 2 additional mono melodic versions and a lot of extra MIDI control.

  • edited February 2022

    @CalCutta said:
    2nd the iSpark suggestion. But as someone who had both a Drumbrute and iOS, I can't think of anything as immediate as the Drumbrute sequencer. The tactile nature of the buttons is the biggest factor.

    That Drumbrute sequencer is a thing of beauty. By far my favorite part of the device. A Beatstep Pro is essentially that sequencer with 2 additional mono melodic versions and a lot of extra MIDI control.

    Best bet would be a Keystep Pro but I‘m not sure if it‘s already stable enough. There are still too many complaints all over the web...

  • @dermichl what were the Keystep Pros stability issues?

  • @audiblevideo said:
    @dermichl what were the Keystep Pros stability issues?

    users still report timing issues, freezes and other gottchas. it seems like Arturia did mess things up with the KSP.

  • @dermichl said:

    @CalCutta said:
    2nd the iSpark suggestion. But as someone who had both a Drumbrute and iOS, I can't think of anything as immediate as the Drumbrute sequencer. The tactile nature of the buttons is the biggest factor.

    That Drumbrute sequencer is a thing of beauty. By far my favorite part of the device. A Beatstep Pro is essentially that sequencer with 2 additional mono melodic versions and a lot of extra MIDI control.

    Best bet would be a Keystep Pro but I‘m not sure if it‘s already stable enough. There are still too many complaints all over the web...

    Keystep Pro's sequencer's a bit different (lack of roller/looper pad, for instance). Probably some other advantages not on the BSP though.

  • edited February 2022

    @audiblevideo said:
    @dermichl what were the Keystep Pros stability issues?

    Sorry to just paste a google search link, but I don't think there's a official public repository of bugs and issues with the unit:

    https://google.com/search?q=keystep+pro+bugs&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS835US835&oq=keystep+pro+bugs&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30.2355j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    They announced the KSP a couple days after I finally ordered a regular Keystep, so I did my best to put it out of my mind. However many months later when I realized I needed a multitrack sequencer, reading about how unreliable the KSP was even fairly far after release, deterred me from getting one. I'm basically just waiting for the update to hit that makes everyone who has one go, "FINALLY!"

  • @timelining whelp I'm glad I didn't get rid of my Beatstep Pro for the key version

  • I loved my Drumbrute when I had it and like everyone else I’m having trouble thinking of anything else on iOS thats that immediate and gratifying. Imo, the best way to get that close would be a Beatstep controlling your favorite iOS drum machine.

  • I have a KSP and a BSP (got the latter in trade) and I haven’t had stability issues to speak of with the KSP and generally I’m quite fond of it, but the BSP is a much more enjoyable drum sequencer IMO. Funny thing is, there are enough odd little usage differences between the two devices that it’s actually a bit annoying to use them together.

  • @mjm1138 said:
    I have a KSP and a BSP (got the latter in trade) and I haven’t had stability issues to speak of with the KSP and generally I’m quite fond of it, but the BSP is a much more enjoyable drum sequencer IMO. Funny thing is, there are enough odd little usage differences between the two devices that it’s actually a bit annoying to use them together.

    How do you use the KSP? Do you rely on USB-Midi? Did they solve the recording issue (not recording the first step that is)? Do you have any idea where all these negative comments come from? Thanks for elaborating!

  • @dermichl said:

    @mjm1138 said:
    I have a KSP and a BSP (got the latter in trade) and I haven’t had stability issues to speak of with the KSP and generally I’m quite fond of it, but the BSP is a much more enjoyable drum sequencer IMO. Funny thing is, there are enough odd little usage differences between the two devices that it’s actually a bit annoying to use them together.

    How do you use the KSP? Do you rely on USB-Midi? Did they solve the recording issue (not recording the first step that is)? Do you have any idea where all these negative comments come from? Thanks for elaborating!

    I haven't noticed the recording issue you mention, but it might be down to my usage patterns, who knows. I use USB midi to my iPad from both KSP and BSP, but I use DIN to connect the KSP to the BSP for clock sync (for whatever reason that did not work well for me routed through USB). AUM sends clock to KSP via USB, KSP sends clock to BSP via DIN, they both send notes to AUM via USB. That seems to work well. I also don't really arrange on the KSP or use chaining, I'll tend to record my sequences from KSP into LK or a DAW timeline for arranging.

    I don't doubt the issues other people have had; I think the thing with technology like this is that everyone's use case/integration choices are a little bit different from everyone else's, so I'm sure it's quite hard to do comprehensive QA. So I'd take those reports seriously. That said, I'm not aware of another sequencer in this price range that has the capabilities of the KSP. There are other four-track poly sequencers, but none I know of that really come together in the same way. And even though I prefer the BSP for drums (mainly because of the pads and knobs), KSP is a great drum sequencer too, with 24(!) parts and polyrhythms.

  • Thanks for elaborating! Yes, the KSP has some rather unique selling points. Will get one and try for myself...

  • Hammerhead! Quick, easy and fun...

  • Possibly drambo

  • Using an actual drumbrute impact to program iOS drum machines is a lot of fun. Best of both worlds?

    The simplicity and directness of the DBI is what makes it so much fun. No menus and almost everything is one button or knob — not too much requirement of the shift key, but when you do need the shift key it’s obvious and quick.

    And you still get to use the DBI kick. Nothing on iOS quite matches it — it can be huuuuuge.

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