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Makeshift NDLR ... finally put something together!
Over time there have been a few discussions on here about the NDLR from Conductive Labs. In particular some folks (myself included) have wondered if a certain app or collection of apps could provide equivalent capabilities to the NDLR. I don't own one myself, and they are fairly hard to get hold of just now - CL's website says production has ceased due to worldwide chip shortages - so I started to investigate what apps could be assembled to create a kind of pseudo-NDLR. Well, I finally got to something that I think makes for a reasonable(ish) stand-in. It certainly doesn't do everything the NDLR does but I'd say it covers a reasonable chunk of the functionality. I also now have to use Camtasia in my job so I thought I might as well use that to make a video of the setup - a picture paints a thousand words and all that!
Anyway, here is a link to the video if you're interested in seeing what apps I brought together (and how):
Cheers
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Interesting! I owned a NDLR and I agree that IOS software can not replace it. But you are coming far, I like this approach.
Suggestion: With Chordjam you have 16 chord-pads that you can trigger via notes or CC's , and you can direct each voice (max 5) from a chord to a different midichannel! Last but not least: you can load presets via notes or CC's too...
Nice video @wired2moon ; thank you!
Ah missed that one entirely. Sounds like chordjam could potentially eliminate the need for mfxconvert and polythemus as well as chordpolypad? Does it allow you to latch chords until next pad is triggered? That was where Scalebud came unstuck for example.
By the way (almost forgot…) kudos to @Stuntman_mike for first putting me onto CPP and SPA about a year ago - thank you sir!
You can latch (on/off) the chordpads in Chordjam, but that means that triggered chords are quantized in time or not. There's no Hold-setting for the chordpads like ChordPolyPad has, if that's what you're looking for...
I thought someone could do this. Good on you for sharing the project notes.
Oh wow, you’re welcome!
Credit where it’s due
Ah ok, by latch I mean hold. So you click a chord pad and it plays that chord - and because hold is enabled it keeps playing that chord until you hit another chord pad. At that point the new chord starts playing and any notes that were unique to the first chord are automatically terminated. In other words you don't have to explicitly unlatch(unhold) latched(held) notes, it automatically and intelligently does that when you hit your next chord pad. You can choose a retrig or legato setting, I actually find the former works best in my setup as a rule.
I’ve been tinkering with ChordJam, two StepPolyArps, and MIDI Latch (from MIDI Tools) in Loopy Pro as a NDLR wannabe:
Loopy Pro provides an environment for creating play/pause toggles, parameter knobs etc.
Can you share a video to understand how it works?
Absolutely, be right back…
Here is the basic idea:

I will create another video with LP control layout.
Sorry for three things: moving slow, sloppy video production, and the not so enticing demo song 😂
I hope the basic idea is conveyed 🙏
MIDI Routing
ChordJam into PAD Synth, StepPolyArp 1 and 2, MIDI Latch
1. PAD: ChordJam into Synth
2. MOTIF 1: StepPolyArp 1 into Synth
3. MOTIF 2: StepPolyArp 2 into Synth
4. DRONE: MIDI Latch into Synth
ChordJam triggers everything, adjust each device as needed
Great ideas here. Thanks. The moving slow helped me to better understand what was happening
For those with a Novation Launchpad, I spent a couple of hours mapping the default Launchpad notes to ChordPolyPad note triggers for the pads 1-4 (four 4x4 grids) in the top to bottom CPP orientation using mfxConvert (AU)
Here's some Pics of the numbers for mapping. Hope it helps someone in their NDLR pursuit.
NOVATION

CHORDPOLYPAD

In case someone has 2 LaunchPads (or 2 presets
) mapping for the other 64 CPP notes

Some notes:
In the manual the TOP to Bottom ordering starts at C negative 2 (C -2) and goes to G8 on the last set of pads
CPP has an option to do bottom to top. In that case the mapping starts at C -1 and ends on G7
MAKE SURE TO set the Triggering pads by MIDI notes in CPP to All groups (0-127) in the preferences Pads Setup