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  • edited March 2022

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @jrjulius said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @jrjulius said:

    @cian said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @cian said:
    Ah cool. Like I said on the other thread its biggest limitations are the number of buses and FX slots. But it does a lot of other things pretty well.

    8 arenā€™t enough? What # would be ideal in your opinion? The FX slot limitations are a killer, especially if you use an AU midifx in the chain, youā€™re then only left with 1 effect slot šŸ˜³

    Isn't there only one return? I need to dig this out again. The ideal number is as many as I need obviously... I use Reaper on the desktop so I'm kind of spoiled by that.

    You can add a second return in the Song Properties menu, but it disables multi-out and Groups. The Group function provides 1-8 parallel busses that you can set as a trackā€™s output destination, but thereā€™s no send amount.

    It seems like an arbitrary limitation but Iā€™ve never actually had an issue with it ā€” I usually have a reverb send, one group for summing/compressing percussion, and my master effects.

    Iā€™m actually able to add 3 returns + 8 groups.


    Adding a 4th return disables the groups

    Wild! Are you using an iPad Pro? Iā€™m using an Air 3 so thereā€™s probably some limitations.

    Yes, Pro 12.9 M1. I just tried the same on an 11ā€ Pro and ran into the same limitation as your original post! These limits are baffling šŸ˜³

    The Dev has been convinced in the past, via the forum to make iPad Pro features available for all iPadsā€¦

    Worth a tryā€¦

    Hereā€™s that forum link again

    https://www.multitrackstudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4

    Iā€™m going to post a request, might be worth piling on/triangulating.

    EDIT: Just made the request (2nd FX related request today, see the my MTS 4.4 update thread)

    Maybe if yā€™all jump on we can talk dude into itā€¦

    Looks like youā€™re getting some traction on getting the midi au fx, to not take an AU slot, with the dev. Do you feel 3 total (including the AU instrument) is enough?

    No such thing as enough. More is my favorite #. Let us both keep pushing.

    Your video is much appreciated! I learned valuable stuff. I really appreciate your coverage of keyboard shortcuts, itā€™s info (encouragement) that will make a big impact in my work/play.

    I encourage you to link it on the MTS forum for other users

  • @Littlewoodg @MisplacedDevelopment or any othersā€¦ have you noticed that apps in the au instrument slot such as EG Pulse, Koala, Magellan 2 etc crash if you tap their internal pads or pianos? This is a bit of a killer

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:
    @Littlewoodg @MisplacedDevelopment or any othersā€¦ have you noticed that apps in the au instrument slot such as EG Pulse, Koala, Magellan 2 etc crash if you tap their internal pads or pianos? This is a bit of a killer

    IIRC this started happening with iOS 15.2 but I was mostly using Koala last year so it might have been earlier. Dev thinks itā€™s an issue with Apple according to the MTS support forums.

    I donā€™t have the issue with any apps that have MPE keyboards, oddly enough ā€” Model D, Animoog Z, and Phosphor 3 all work perfectly fine. But Koala, Ruismaker/Noir, and TB Flowtones crash immediately if you use their native keyboard/sequencer/pads.

  • @jrjulius said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    @Littlewoodg @MisplacedDevelopment or any othersā€¦ have you noticed that apps in the au instrument slot such as EG Pulse, Koala, Magellan 2 etc crash if you tap their internal pads or pianos? This is a bit of a killer

    IIRC this started happening with iOS 15.2 but I was mostly using Koala last year so it might have been earlier. Dev thinks itā€™s an issue with Apple according to the MTS support forums.

    Iā€™m 15.1 and itā€™s happening but I think I have an iPad still on 14.x so iā€™ll see if i can produce it there also.

    I donā€™t have the issue with any apps that have MPE keyboards, oddly enough ā€” Model D, Animoog Z, and Phosphor 3 all work perfectly fine. But Koala, Ruismaker/Noir, and TB Flowtones crash immediately if you use their native keyboard/sequencer/pads.

    Interesting! In a perfect world iā€™d like to be able to to record while playing the koala pads/eg pulse pads and have it print the played in midi to MTS piano roll and then trigger the pads samples on playback.

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @jrjulius said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    @Littlewoodg @MisplacedDevelopment or any othersā€¦ have you noticed that apps in the au instrument slot such as EG Pulse, Koala, Magellan 2 etc crash if you tap their internal pads or pianos? This is a bit of a killer

    IIRC this started happening with iOS 15.2 but I was mostly using Koala last year so it might have been earlier. Dev thinks itā€™s an issue with Apple according to the MTS support forums.

    Iā€™m 15.1 and itā€™s happening but I think I have an iPad still on 14.x so iā€™ll see if i can produce it there also.

    I donā€™t have the issue with any apps that have MPE keyboards, oddly enough ā€” Model D, Animoog Z, and Phosphor 3 all work perfectly fine. But Koala, Ruismaker/Noir, and TB Flowtones crash immediately if you use their native keyboard/sequencer/pads.

    Interesting! In a perfect world iā€™d like to be able to to record while playing the koala pads/eg pulse pads and have it print the played in midi to MTS piano roll and then trigger the pads samples on playback.

    Just tried this with the iOS 14.x iPad and it works perfectly! With EG pulse Iā€™m able to record the pads directly into the piano roll (bypassing EG Pulseā€™s sequencer) and play it back! So itā€™s definitely iOS15 related it seems

  • I technically ā€˜typedā€™ āŒØļø this beat lol

    I wanted to see what could be done using the Magic Keyboard Case only (no touch instruments, midi controllers, etc) and Im happy with whatā€™s possible. It nice for these expensive cases to be good for more than ā€˜typingā€™.

    I also only used the internal iPad speakers so Iā€™m positive the mix and bass is out of whack.

  • Anyone here considering jumping ship from Cubasis 3 to MTS?

  • Does this DAW support Mackie control?

  • @Telstar5 said:
    Anyone here considering jumping ship from Cubasis 3 to MTS?

    MTS having 3 slots is the biggest limitation in my case.
    So no for now.
    But it looks great and promising, so I'll keep an eye on it.

  • Hey @ipadbeatmaking šŸ™šŸ½
    Nice Demo! Do you plan another video of it with some information about the audiotrack possibilities?
    Would be interesting to see if MTS handle these. In my opinion the CB3 workflow for example isnā€™t as good as it could be.
    Another question would be if there is an internal audio routing option. Like in desktop daw where you can record the audio from a midi track to an audio track.

  • @GrnEgz_N_Hm said:
    Does this DAW support Mackie control?

    No, nor midi learn that Iā€™ve seen. However in the desktop manual they seem to be supported, so there may be a shot at getting it in the iPad version if we ask.

    Desktop manual:

  • edited March 2022

    @ipadbeatmaking

    After seeing you using the Xequence keys in the MTS keyboard ā€œOptionsā€ slot I found something interesting: I used that same slot for a midi FX sequencer, Iā€™m this case the Square Acid app.

    The midi sequencer records midi info into the piano roll in real-time in this placement (replacing the MTS keyboard).

    This unlike the usual ā€œapply to trackā€ printing option when the midi sequencer is assigned in the usual Midi FX slotā€¦

    The sequencer will run in sync, and starts when you record, wherever you set your start position.

    This also frees up the fx slots in the midi channel strip.

    I thought that ā€œOptionā€ AUV3 selection only worked for keyboard or pad controllers, but it seems that sequencers and probably the other midiFX work there too.

    This becomes interesting if you use one of those sequencer apps that do things that the formidable sequencers inside MTS donā€™t do: Senode, Aphelion, Snakebudā€¦etc.

    Unintended functionality? Mr. Bremmers strikes againā€¦

  • @Littlewoodg said:
    @ipadbeatmaking

    After seeing you using the Xequence keys in the MTS keyboard ā€œOptionsā€ slot I found something interesting: I used that same slot for a midi FX sequencer, Iā€™m this case the Square Acid app.

    The midi sequencer records midi info into the piano roll in real-time in this placement (replacing the MTS keyboard).

    This unlike the usual ā€œapply to trackā€ printing option when the midi sequencer is assigned in the usual Midi FX slotā€¦

    The sequencer will run in sync, and starts when you record, wherever you set your start position.

    This also frees up the fx slots in the midi channel strip.

    I thought that ā€œOptionā€ AUV3 selection only worked for keyboard or pad controllers, but it seems that sequencers and probably the other midiFX work there too.

    This becomes interesting if you use one of those sequencer apps that do things that the formidable sequencers inside MTS donā€™t do: Senode, Aphelion, Snakebudā€¦etc.

    Unintended functionality? Mr. Bremmers strikes againā€¦

    @Littlewoodg Just tried this out with Square Acid Sequencer works great thanks for the tip.

  • Since the BeatHawk IAPs are on sale it is worth mentioning the ability of MTS to add articulations to individual notes which can be tied to program change, MIDI channel or keyswitch. BeatHawk is multi-timbral which means you can drive different instruments or articulations of instruments via different MIDI channels using a single AU instance.

    Here is the BeatHawk MIDI setup:

    This is the articulation menu (hamburger menu when the AU is open):

    You can add MIDI channels and assign them a friendly name.

    Selecting individual notes In the piano-roll then gives you the ability to assign these notes to articulations:

    Under the covers this assigns the configured MIDI channel to each note.

    Using this feature lets you write articulated music using a single track. The downside is that MTS does not visually distinguish between notes that are articulated differently (Atom 2 does this well), so depending on the complexity of the piece then it may make more sense to use the multi-MIDI editor and have the articulations on different tracks.

    There are a number of multi-timbral apps out there (search the forum) but using this technique to combine multiple different instrument types or different synth sounds is not going to be as successful since you may well end up tripping over needing to use the same notes for different instruments. Apps like BS-16i are more useful in this scenario as there are lots of soundfonts which come with multiple articulations for the same instrument type.

    I donā€™t do any of this myself as StaffPad has me covered but it may be useful to someone.

  • edited March 2022

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    Using this feature lets you write articulated music using a single track. The downside is that MTS does not visually distinguish between notes that are articulated differently (Atom 2 does this well), so depending on the complexity of the piece then it may make more sense to use the multi-MIDI editor and have the articulations on different tracks.

    There are a number of multi-timbral apps out there (search the forum) but using this technique to combine multiple different instrument types or different synth sounds is not going to be as successful since you may well end up tripping over needing to use the same notes for different instruments. Apps like BS-16i are more useful in this scenario as there are lots of soundfonts which come with multiple articulations for the same instrument type.

    I donā€™t do any of this myself as StaffPad has me covered but it may be useful to someone.

    Not sure if this is relevant, the ā€œCONTRā€ view, that you can keep open beneath the piano roll, lets you visualize your different articulations per note. CONTR button itself is a pull down lets you select among visualizations for the different articulations youā€™re using. To separate the views for each articulation, you assign each one to a different #.

    Maybe Iā€™m not addressing youā€™re noteā€¦

  • @Littlewoodg said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    Using this feature lets you write articulated music using a single track. The downside is that MTS does not visually distinguish between notes that are articulated differently (Atom 2 does this well), so depending on the complexity of the piece then it may make more sense to use the multi-MIDI editor and have the articulations on different tracks.

    There are a number of multi-timbral apps out there (search the forum) but using this technique to combine multiple different instrument types or different synth sounds is not going to be as successful since you may well end up tripping over needing to use the same notes for different instruments. Apps like BS-16i are more useful in this scenario as there are lots of soundfonts which come with multiple articulations for the same instrument type.

    I donā€™t do any of this myself as StaffPad has me covered but it may be useful to someone.

    Not sure if this is relevant, the ā€œCONTRā€ view, that you can keep open beneath the piano roll, lets you visualize your different articulations per note. CONTR button itself is a pull down lets you select among visualizations for the different articulations youā€™re using. To separate the views for each articulation, you assign each one to a different #.

    Maybe Iā€™m not addressing youā€™re noteā€¦

    Interesting, this sent me down a little rabbit hole! There is a controller named "Articulation" which can be accessed by the CONTR panel and is only there if you have defined articulations for a track. If a note is set to the "Default" Articulation, per the screen below, then it uses the articulation drawn in the controller graph. If you select the articulation manually from the dropdown like I did in my previous post then this overrides whatever is set in the controller graph. You can see on the right that all of the defined articulations are available in the controller graph.

    I cannot see a way of displaying the per note articulation from the CONTR menu if it has been set to something other than the default.

  • Good timing of the excellent new AudioLayer update as MTS also has per-note keyswitch support :smile:

    With this you should be able to create keyswitched instruments in AudioLayer and easily switch articulations in the MTS piano roll without actually having to paint in the control notes to do the switching. You just need to assign the articulation to the note and presumably MTS sends the associated keyswitch before sending the note. Iā€™ll test this out later if I get chance.

  • @MisplacedDevelopment said:
    Good timing of the excellent new AudioLayer update as MTS also has per-note keyswitch support :smile:

    With this you should be able to create keyswitched instruments in AudioLayer and easily switch articulations in the MTS piano roll without actually having to paint in the control notes to do the switching. You just need to assign the articulation to the note and presumably MTS sends the associated keyswitch before sending the note. Iā€™ll test this out later if I get chance.

    So is this like certain old kontakt libraries where they would swap out patches/presets via keyswitch?

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:
    So is this like certain old kontakt libraries where they would swap out patches/presets via keyswitch?

    Yeah. Keyswitch support is pretty rare on iOS, I was not aware of other apps which offered it before the AudioLayer update.

  • Will the MMS Remote iPad app control their MMS for iPad app? Or does it only control the desktop app? Just wondering.

  • @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    So is this like certain old kontakt libraries where they would swap out patches/presets via keyswitch?

    Yeah. Keyswitch support is pretty rare on iOS, I was not aware of other apps which offered it before the AudioLayer update.

    Yea Iā€™ve never seen it on iOS either. Is the key switching in this case a key to switch the patches in the app or do we need to manually build a keyswitching library?

  • @mojozart said:
    Will the MMS Remote iPad app control their MMS for iPad app? Or does it only control the desktop app? Just wondering.

    Good question, I would guess only for desktop since we donā€™t have some menus the desktop version has. But it would be nice to use an old iPad to remote control MTS on another one šŸ¤”

  • @ipadbeatmaking said:

    @MisplacedDevelopment said:

    @ipadbeatmaking said:
    So is this like certain old kontakt libraries where they would swap out patches/presets via keyswitch?

    Yeah. Keyswitch support is pretty rare on iOS, I was not aware of other apps which offered it before the AudioLayer update.

    Yea Iā€™ve never seen it on iOS either. Is the key switching in this case a key to switch the patches in the app or do we need to manually build a keyswitching library?

    In the case of AudioLayer you would need to create an instrument which responds to keyswitches. I havenā€™t played with the new update yet but if it also supports importing instruments with built-in keyswitches then that would be pretty cool.

    For example, I have Shreddage 1 which comes with built-in keyswitches for different guitar articulations. I could write the same note 4 times in the piano roll and assign the first 3 as muted and the last as sustained, all on the one track. In other DAWs you would need to paint in your 4 notes and then also manually paint in the keyswitch notes each time you want to change the articulation.

  • Did a little key switch test with a two samples on two layers. MTS was able to trigger samples in either layer using the appropriate mapping. The important thing to note is that C0 in AudioLayer is C1 in MTS:

  • @MisplacedDevelopment said:
    Did a little key switch test with a two samples on two layers. MTS was able to trigger samples in either layer using the appropriate mapping. The important thing to note is that C0 in AudioLayer is C1 in MTS:

    šŸ¤Æ

    I have no idea how Iā€™ll actually make a KS instrument in AudioLayer but this is nice! MTS for the win, again šŸ„‡

  • edited April 2022

    @ipadbeatmaking : Thanks for the heads up ! I hope we get more videos on this app. Yours was a great one to start out with. Maybe @Gavinski ?

  • Quickly becoming a MTS convert here. Thereā€™s some quirks to learn/get used to. But great functionality/immediacy once you know..

  • This is thee update! šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„

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