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Well if you’re going to take the plunge, a RK4 is damn fine reason to do so!
How do you find the flexishaper? Do you mainly use it for audio or modulation?
It was the erica pico system that initially hooked me and yeah… it’s a slippery slope 😅
The iPad (somewhat) runs the show. Clocking/sequencing/modulation/doing anything I need basically thanks to Drambo and the ES-9 😻
@ronnieb what's the modular on the right? Nice setup.
O-Coast can definitely be replicated with iOS to some extent. I don't miss mine at all...
My MK1 MS20 though. Just the ESP alone is worth keeping it for!
A member on here got me to dip into Softube modular. I’m so addicted to it. All that stuff you guys have looks fun tho.
Cherry Audio makes a software modular and VCV rack and MIRack are either solutions to or gateway drugs to full blown modular.
I ABSOLUTELY do understand the hardware orientation of modular. You can FEEL the electricity your moving around to make noise. I have just one piece of semi- modular equipment a Mother 32 and have been fighting off getting anything else.
I might cave though if I can find something cheeeeeep. Maybe a Crave if I can scrape together any cash.
Then along comes this format with modules around 85$
https://forum.aemodular.com/
I’ve not done the deep dive I need into the flexshaper as yet, it’s been pretty subtle so far, but I hope to use it for both, and with both… I got it at the same time as the fm aid, and that’s occupied most of my attention so far. I honestly don’t know how folks manage such big setups, I’m just about in control of about half of just my rack alone at the moment with the mentalist patches I’m making.
One thing I’ve discussed a few times with people is that it seems easier to avoid the massive rig tendency if you’re not trying to do everything within the rack; I’ve got a few off bits of other more standard gear that send into my mixer, and the modular is just another, more bespoke piece of that.
And for sure, the rk4 is my main focus of attention most days, it’s just incredibly sensitive to tiny changes in settings and input, exactly the kind of thing I wanted to explore 😄
I don't regret anything... I just don't think about it (I did love the MS-20, though, but it wasn't the full size, just the mini, so if I did want to go back there it wouldn't be especially hard or expensive to rebuy)
For sure, this was sort of what happened to me, as I got into it, I wanted to do more and more in the rack. The big thing for me was that hardware synths never really clicked with me the same way, there's something about the process of building a rack and in turn your own version of an instrument that I really gravitated towards.
I would 100% try to stick with a small system for as long as you can though. Especially early on, it's just so much more conducive to learning and actually exploring ideas. I sometimes still find myself getting overwhelmed if I want to start patching but don't have any specific patches in mind. I moved out of the box to limit my choices while making music but ended up with a very similar problem and a bunch of extra wires in the way too!
Thank you mate. That is my pride and joy, a This is Not Rocket Science Fenix IV
It is a modern incarnation of the Synton Fenix range done by TINRS and they absolutely smashed it. Honestly, it's a fucking piece of art in my (definitely very biased) opinion. It's really piqued my interest in exploring complete systems but will have to save a fair few pennies before I look into getting any more.
Super cool! @ronnieb
Anyone reading this thread and feeling the magnetic pull of modular...
I would strongly encourage you to install VCV rack or invest $50+ in either Voltage Modular (Cherry Audio) or Softube Modular BEFORE starting to buy any modular gear.
You may find virtual modular does enough to scratch that itch. You may find that you enjoy a particular aspect of modular more (or less) than you previously thought. You may also find that using virtual modules helps you design a blueprint for your first real-world hardware rack.
On the other hand... you may discover that you don't actually enjoy modular synthesis as much as you thought you would, and are happy returning to the world of ready-made plugins and synths with lovely neat UIs and no cables.
Or worst of all... you may discover that you REALLY enjoy modular synthesis, that virtual was EXACTLY the gateway drug you needed, and now you crave something with PHYSICAL dials and tactile cables!! .. in which case, it's time to kiss at least $2,000 goodbye.
One final useful point about the 'virtual modular vs eurorack' debate.... it's a damn sight easier to do polyphonic in the virtual version.
At least....
Yeah, VCV and mirack just fueled the addiction for me. And once I got started on a modular, I enjoyed the hands on approach and just the sonic blast of the analog sound and intensity that I no longer have a life and all my expendable money goes to the modular but I’m content with that
I found that Model 15 helped scratch my modular itch more than the 0-Coast did or VCV Rack. Good tutorials for beginners, and just enough modules to give you flexibility without the risk of endless choices causing indecision.
I still think about going with a hardware modular set up, but without a goal in mind for it I’d likely get something way more expensive than I really need. Still dream of getting some of the newer Roland modules if they ever get in stock anywhere again.
I can’t imagine getting real hardware modular. I need recall. I feel the same way about synths in general. And most outboard gear Lol.
Yeah, I knew all the dangers of Modular before I even tried mirack and VCV, but went ahead anyway. It took about two years of fiddling with those before the curiosity grew to a point where it could not be denied 😅
Yeah, it took a year of using Mirack before buying 0 coast and then six months to get Make Noise Tape Sound Machine. I was very glad to sell Morphagene tho, lol. Kept rest and added more, and more.
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😯 Morphagene is the module most likely to get me into modular!
I thought so too but it just didn't vibe with me. Turns out I'm more in straight up synthesis whether it's west or east coast. 60% of my rack is filters, lol.
That does appeal too! I'm such a filter nerd that I could absolutely see the attraction of having a rig purely for filtering things. I've got a Shruthi with a Polivoks filter, a Werkstatt with a ladder filter, a Retroverb with a multimode filter & a Monotron Duo with the MS-20 filter... but I need more! Plus I don't have a low pass gate now I don't own a 0-Coast anymore (I might buy a 0HP vactrol LPG to scratch that particular itch)
Yeah, I use my filters with VCV through Expert Sleepers ES-8. Hybrid modular ftw. VCV has definitely with controlling GAS. It's the second half of my rack, especially for utility modules.
My stuff on iOS is all about random, generative and audio manips. My rack adventures are following the same path, ( only with a much steeper learning curve) and the Morphagene is the star so far. I can definitely do stuff with that which would be tricky if not impossible to do on iOS, and there is just something about physical knobs and ‘what happens if I plug this into that ?’ which a glass screen just can’t, literally, touch. I expect a long, expensive road ahead, but as it comes only one module at a time, I am (almost) at ease with that…
I honestly think this should almost be mandatory before buying a single module. The allure of a big modular rig can be very strong right up until you sink a ton of money in it, only to realise it could be a lot easier/more productive to do what you wanted ITB or with a hardware synth with fixed architecture etc.
Semi Modular’s are probably the best entry point imo though. If you get one (or a couple) semi modular synths/effects and you find yourself needing to do something they can’t, that’s the time to look into supporting modules and starting a small case. A semi modular will cover most of your foundations so expanding on that is much more rewarding than just starting a case from scratch.
Do you route everything back into vcv or out to an external mixer?
@ronnieb i have been watching some videos on your Felix IV. What a fantastic synth. I love the clean design. Hadn’t seen it before. (Not that I’m in the market but just window shopping is still fun…)
The question is Drambo sounds as good as the Assimil8or?
S’good. Here’s some modular monks…. I like this kind of stuff.
If Behringer ever release their VCS3 then I’m going to fuck. The only question is where do I put it.
I've been eyeing up the 2600 semi modular, I already know I don't have the space for it.
I will make space.
Somehow.
Thinking of Behringer Proton and Erae II controller for tactile semi modular experience.
That's eye catching eye candy right there.