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Drum Sequencer for AUM
I've been relying on Atom 2 to sequence drum apps, and it's very easy to use. (I play on an iRig, which sends midi to Atom 2; works beautifully.)
But I've run into an annoying quirk (which has to be user error). I make a four-bar loop, just something to play along to. But now I want to add some variation to the clip over, say 32 bars. Ideally I'd set conditional triggers and the like, but that's not available in Atom 2.
I'm happy to copy the clip and add variation manually. But there doesn't seem to be an easy way to copy these four bars and paste them one after the other. Is it true I can only select the notes, not the bars? Then I then have to carefully paste each clip, one at a time. I should probably learn to use patterns, but then I'd have to set up another pattern to trigger them.
What am I missing? Or does Digistix have conditional triggers? I really like Atom 2 and its Launchpad integration.
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@ExAsperis99 Digistix has probability, I think Helium (Atom like Midi) does too. Both are by 4Pockets.
If you want to keep using Atom and want to use probability as well separate your drum parts and pipe say the hi-hats or crash channels into a Mozaic script or Art Kerns midi Gate utility.
Or you could just set up a pattern in Atom or Riffer (which can mutate - not the same as probability but could give interesting results - on its own) to trigger the Atom instances
How hard would it be to put in a few extra trigger notes to get the flexibility you want.
PS no Atom does not clone bars "accurately" unless you put in a "marker notes" at the beginning and end of the bar
Or try using Octopad or DRAMBO (no not Drambo)
OCTACHRON I meant Octachron which has 8 different CC messages you can send per drum channel as well as probability
Thanks. Smart about separating the drums by channel. Kind of surprised that you can't copy and past bars in Atom 2; I assumed it was me being dense. Can you do it in LK?
The question is, How do you like your DRUMs? There are so many choices.. it’s what makes iOS so special..
GR-16 may be up your alley…
@RajahP
Why have I never done this!?
I love GR16's sequencer and the Elektron-style conditional triggers. But I only ever think of it as a full groovebox rather than either a drumkit or a super tweakable wavetable synth.
Thank you!
Btw, you can clone selections and it will do duplicate the selection. the workflow is annoying in that you need to manually change the sequence length .
Here are the steps for taking a four bar pattern and turning it into 16 bars:
Thanks, @espiegel123
But the problem with that is that the midi notes in this case do not go a full four bars, only 3 bars and 3 beats. When I lasso all the notes, it creates a pattern that is not a full 4 bars; hitting clone inserts the next clip not at the beginning Bar 9 but at Bar 8.3. It's not a huge deal to drag the selected clip an extra beat to the right. It just seems surprising that you can't copy and past bars like that.
Probably what I need to do is delve into how to use Patterns efficiently.
Ouch. Something that works in that situation is to copy selected, tap where you want the paste to start and tap paste at playhead, tap in timeline again to move the play head....
I did a bunch of clone/move to the right, clone/move to the right, etc. But there were a lot of doubled notes, and I'm not sure where they came from; it didn't really make sense.
In the end, the most elegant solution is just to open up another instance of Atom 2 and send the four bar loop's midi into a 32-bar clip in the new clip and record it there. Which worked just fine. I mean, relatively.
You could create a note to fill in the empty end of the measure.
Give that note a zero velocity, effectively turning it into a rest.
Clone should work as normal.
Totally forgot about the 0 velocity trick.
That is very clever. But a real kludge, don't you think? I'm wondering what the best options are for sequence the Klevgrand drum apps and FAC Drumkit. I actually prefer the piano roll in Atom 2 to the step sequencers or Octachron or EG Pulse, largely because those lack the ability to adjust micro timing. Plus it has the added benefit of the Launchpad integration.
Thinking that the workaround of recording a midi performance into a longer clip is the best way to use Atom 2.
Thanks for all the thoughtful comments.
I don’t really think it is any more of a kludge than having to re-record into a second instance.
But iOS is one big kludge sometimes, just to do something that should be easy.
Truth right there.