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Developing plugins for personal use?
I've been thinking about doing some tutorial projects to explore developing plugins for personal use. By personal use I mean not for commercial release. So, focused on getting audio out and not professional level UI. I'd mainly be interested in AUv3 because of wanting the focus on iOS, but some of the ideas would naturally cross over into other plugin formats and OS's.
What I'm wondering about is if this would be useful for anyone. What's the level of interest in something like this? How many people have the equipment (a Mac) needed to get use out of the projects/tutorials?
The general idea is to do this in a way that tries not to put people off the idea because of the programming or math involved. There are tools available that can really help in this regard.
Any thoughts or comments?
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I'd be interested...it would be great if they could cover MIDI output as well...
I'd be very interested
My original plan for iOS was to create customised touch interfaces for hardware synths... the closest I got to this plan was with Lemur, except the readability of sysex packages (size limit of Lemur).
I would definitely be interested in midiAU aspect to that end, maybe some basics in audio to create similar tools/interfaces for modular (cv/gate).
Wish you luck with the project!
Sounds great, I’d be interested for sure
I'm grateful there are people interested enough and who have committed to learning how to program the software and apps which most of us rely on so much.
Getting started with the basic framework of an AUv3 plugin is exactly what I'd be interested in. I did desktop app programming on Windows back in '90s and early '00s. Got an M1 Macbook last year with the idea I'd investigate iOS programming. I got some basic familiarity with Swift on iOS but I stalled out and was wanting to renew my efforts.
I’d be very interested, I’ve been trying to do this on desktop lately with a little bit of luck and it helps me stay engaged in actually learning programming and the math without getting bored
Sounds great
I don't know how many people on this forum would go so far as to develop AUv3 plugins, but I'll bet there are a ton of people who would love to benefit from such tutorials. I'm one of those who tried and has given up for now due to the huge lack of resources from Apple and sparse/outdated tutorials from others on the specifics of actually getting an AUv3 plugin project up and running. There have been some more generous souls (yourself included) putting things up lately thankfully. I'm almost ready to give it another go. I would eat up well structured tutorial resources along those lines!
On the other hand, I doubt I'd be primarily interested in just developing for personal use. I would want to publish fairly free or low cost practical small-scale applications that I had first used personally and found useful.
Count me in @NeonSilicon!
Also interested
Same here. But I take it that by "personal use" @NeonSilicon mostly means just "without a polished UI". In that case the "personal use" emphasis is perfect for me. The polished UI stuff with Swift/iOS seems relatively similar to what I've done on other platforms. The audio/midi/AUv3 plugin stuff, which seems like the suggested emphasis, is the stuff that's different and not well documented on iOS. Exactly what I'd be most interested in.
@NeonSilicon im only in if its a subscription service
Thanks for the comments!
Hmmm, I'm sure something could be worked out. Maybe an IAP module that funnels all money back to me.
Yeah, that's the basic idea. It would also probably involve other limitations like not working out a fully involved internal presets system. Although, a basic description of how the presets interaction works would be good to have.
The central idea for me is that the power of computers is in the programming of them and I'd like to try and help a little bit in getting around the way the Apple ecosystem for iOS/iPadOS restricts this. I certainly wouldn't put any kind of license restriction on anything that limited usage in commercial projects.
I hadn't considered MIDI AU's yet, but that's an interesting idea.
Personally I'd me more interested in midiAUs than audioAUs
Yes please. 👍
Love the idea
This is something I hate about April 1st posts... are you takin' a piss?
(I watch a lot of TV from the UK).
@GBevin has written an excellent MIDI AU plugin that I love to mention:
https://github.com/gbevin/MIDITapeRecorder
Nah, I'm being serious. I don't know how useful it'll turn out to be, but I do think it will be good to try.
Definitely a good resource for looking at how to do MIDI and MPE in an AU context.
Definitely interested.
For those of you who are OK with C++, using JUCE ( https://juce.com ) is a great way to write audio plugins (or apps) without having to deal with the often annoying details of native plugin APIs. You get the bonus of complete cross-platform support with a single codebase as well. It’s open source and dual licensed (GPL and commercial) so you don’t have to pay anything to get started, or if you just want to do something for yourself (or be open sourced).
Taking the piss - I think you meant. As opposed to the biological necessity.
I won't be using JUCE if I do go through with this. The licensing won't work for people that use any code that I would write and then want to move it into a commercial iOS project of their own. There would be potential conflicts between what I would license my code as, probably CC by 4.0, and the non-commercial GPL of JUCE.
Also, I don't really like JUCE and I like their new owners even less.
I think I will look at using Faust as a starting point and dev tool for some projects.
I would have zero interest in doing this myself - I'm not the programmer type. But I absolutely love that you are offering this, and am sure great things could come of it. You've already given so much to the iOS community with your amazing free plugins, this would really be stepping things up a notch. Thank you for all you do for us 🙏
Thanks. It just came up in an episode of Ted Lasso.
No worries, if you used here in the UK you’d just get some strange look’s probably followed by laughter
Probably more laughter if you were pissed in the UK than if you were pissed in the US.
Thanks!