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I got a really cheap windows tablet in my workflow

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcCrp-MATac/?utm_medium=copy_link

So I can’t leave well alone, and I bought myself a second hand dell venue 11 pro to supplement my iPad. It is really old, but in good condition and can run 3 or 4 instances of Noises at once. My main aim is to use it as a standalone “synth” that I can then sample or record on my iPad. I’m trying out some west coast synths and stuff as well as noises. And I will buy bento noise box as soon as it’s released for windows.

I’m pleasantly surprised at the touch support, the performance and the portability!

Does anyone else do something similar!?

Comments

  • Lovely sounds in there! - I was using my old dell xps until lately, butI switched to my even more ancient tower style Mac Pro as it felt more stable. I might go back to it at some point but I’m just about to get an M1 MacBook so I’ll probably be all idam and that fancy malarkey for a bit 😁

  • I bought exactly that model new back then, worst purchase ever... o:)
    The touch experience is probably ok with current stuff written for touch, but any classic Windoze app is a nightmare (it‘s faking mouse by fingertip).
    A lot of regions are calculated false, as you can see with the circle guide aim help.
    Position the circle exactly above the intended location and it still misses. Some buttons don‘t even exist in it‘s map. The keyboard saves the day.
    There‘s extremely few information about the thingy, seems difficult to expand (if that‘s possible at all).
    I hoped to use it with an MPC Studio, but timing was all over the place once there was graphic redraw.

    But you‘re right... these tablets are so cheap that it‘s not worth selling for me. ;)

  • @Krupa said:
    Lovely sounds in there! - I was using my old dell xps until lately, butI switched to my even more ancient tower style Mac Pro as it felt more stable. I might go back to it at some point but I’m just about to get an M1 MacBook so I’ll probably be all idam and that fancy malarkey for a bit 😁

    Hey, Thanks! I do feel a bit like I have taken a step towards the dark side. M1 mac would be amazing, but my wife would also kill me!! do you use a particular mixer or anything to connect them?

  • @Telefunky said:
    I bought exactly that model new back then, worst purchase ever... o:)
    The touch experience is probably ok with current stuff written for touch, but any classic Windoze app is a nightmare (it‘s faking mouse by fingertip).
    A lot of regions are calculated false, as you can see with the circle guide aim help.
    Position the circle exactly above the intended location and it still misses. Some buttons don‘t even exist in it‘s map. The keyboard saves the day.
    There‘s extremely few information about the thingy, seems difficult to expand (if that‘s possible at all).
    I hoped to use it with an MPC Studio, but timing was all over the place once there was graphic redraw.

    But you‘re right... these tablets are so cheap that it‘s not worth selling for me. ;)

    hahaha I'm sorry to hear about your purchase!!! One man's trash is another's treasure I guess! For me, the price was right, and yeah with Noises and a few apps I'm using, the touch seems to be fine. Luckily midi timing is a non issue for me :D

  • @sevenape said:

    @Krupa said:
    Lovely sounds in there! - I was using my old dell xps until lately, butI switched to my even more ancient tower style Mac Pro as it felt more stable. I might go back to it at some point but I’m just about to get an M1 MacBook so I’ll probably be all idam and that fancy malarkey for a bit 😁

    Hey, Thanks! I do feel a bit like I have taken a step towards the dark side. M1 mac would be amazing, but my wife would also kill me!! do you use a particular mixer or anything to connect them?

    Right now I’ve got an iConnect ICA4 and an ancient mackie looking after all that, I’ve taken a deeper dive back into hardware over the last two years than I thought I’d take 😬 at least it’s all sellable off and when I decide to change my mind, still loving it all though, maybe not the Volca stuff as much as I’d hoped…

  • edited April 2022

    I did the same last year (an older Lenovo X1) and I'm quite happy with it. Not an iPad replacement at all, mainly due to the lack of apps developed for touch control.
    But there's quite a number of synths and effects that work well enough and touching knibs and faders is mostly better than tweaking them with a mouse pointer.

    Ableton Live also works quite well when in higher zoom settings.

    For playing notes and chords and a for a few go-to controls without the typical hardware MIDI controller hassle, XotoPad has proven to be very useful.

    Oh, and it does have a headphones port :D

  • Absolutely love this, mate - beautiful sounds and I absolutely love repurposing older tech like this. I'm tempted to grab one myself...

  • Also, whilst you're down in Windows land, grab this beautiful thing for free:

    https://cherryaudio.com/products/surrealistic-mg-1-plus

    Absolutely fantastic synth and something that gets used way more than a lot of the expensive ones I've accumulated.

  • @PeteSasqwax said:
    Absolutely love this, mate - beautiful sounds and I absolutely love repurposing older tech like this. I'm tempted to grab one myself...

    @PeteSasqwax said:
    Also, whilst you're down in Windows land, grab this beautiful thing for free:

    https://cherryaudio.com/products/surrealistic-mg-1-plus

    Absolutely fantastic synth and something that gets used way more than a lot of the expensive ones I've accumulated.

    Thanks so much <3 and thanks for the link! I'm downloading now! Why not if you find one cheap! I have the core m 4GB model, (7140) I wouldn't go lower than that. Maybe a cheap Microsoft surface or something too?

    I use v player3, it's free and basically audiobus for windows/mac, perfect for jams and treating the tablet like a standalone synth

  • @rs2000 said:
    I did the same last year (an older Lenovo X1) and I'm quite happy with it. Not an iPad replacement at all, mainly due to the lack of apps developed for touch control.
    But there's quite a number of synths and effects that work well enough and touching knibs and faders is mostly better than tweaking them with a mouse pointer.

    Ableton Live also works quite well when in higher zoom settings.

    For playing notes and chords and a for a few go-to controls without the typical hardware MIDI controller hassle, XotoPad has proven to be very useful.

    Oh, and it does have a headphones port :D

    Yes!! headphones are a luxury! I agree, it's not a replacement, but supplementary, lots of fun. Thanks for the xotopad tip!

  • V player sounds excellent! Is it effectively a VST wrapper? I think I need to invest(/igate) although I have to be honest: I've got a bunch of old laptops already that I could potentially use. The touch screen aspect appeals massively though

  • @Krupa said:

    @sevenape said:

    @Krupa said:
    Lovely sounds in there! - I was using my old dell xps until lately, butI switched to my even more ancient tower style Mac Pro as it felt more stable. I might go back to it at some point but I’m just about to get an M1 MacBook so I’ll probably be all idam and that fancy malarkey for a bit 😁

    Hey, Thanks! I do feel a bit like I have taken a step towards the dark side. M1 mac would be amazing, but my wife would also kill me!! do you use a particular mixer or anything to connect them?

    Right now I’ve got an iConnect ICA4 and an ancient mackie looking after all that, I’ve taken a deeper dive back into hardware over the last two years than I thought I’d take 😬 at least it’s all sellable off and when I decide to change my mind, still loving it all though, maybe not the Volca stuff as much as I’d hoped…

    Yeah, the good thing about hardware is that it's kind of an investment I guess!! I will be looking for a mini mixer at some point. But for now I think My irig will do!

  • If it will run SunVox, who even needs an ipad?

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    If it will run SunVox, who even needs an ipad?

    Sunvox runs on a Nook lol

  • Lololol, it's the Linux of DAWs.

  • Caustic 3 runs fine on those tablets, it's free on windows

  • Caustic 3 is brilliant! I made an album using Caustic on a Samsung Note 3 years ago. It was the first mobile music making I ever did. Never released the album and then ended up cannibalising it for lots of things, some of which will hopefully be out soon.

    Caustic is like pocket Reason

  • edited April 2022

    @rs2000 said:
    I did the same last year (an older Lenovo X1) and I'm quite happy with it. Not an iPad replacement at all, mainly due to the lack of apps developed for touch control.
    But there's quite a number of synths and effects that work well enough and touching knibs and faders is mostly better than tweaking them with a mouse pointer.

    Ableton Live also works quite well when in higher zoom settings.

    For playing notes and chords and a for a few go-to controls without the typical hardware MIDI controller hassle, XotoPad has proven to be very useful.

    Oh, and it does have a headphones port :D

    Bitwig is optimized for touch and I have to say it was a rather impressive experience on a MS surface. Not perfect but far better than what I was expecting.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    If it will run SunVox, who even needs an ipad?

    @auxmux said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    If it will run SunVox, who even needs an ipad?

    Sunvox runs on a Nook lol

    @PeteSasqwax said:
    Sunvox runs on an acoustic guitar...

    hahahahahaha!

  • @Korakios said:
    Caustic 3 runs fine on those tablets, it's free on windows

    @PeteSasqwax said:
    Caustic 3 is brilliant! I made an album using Caustic on a Samsung Note 3 years ago. It was the first mobile music making I ever did. Never released the album and then ended up cannibalising it for lots of things, some of which will hopefully be out soon.

    Caustic is like pocket Reason

    Used it quite a bit on my Asus mini tablet thing back in the day...

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @rs2000 said:
    I did the same last year (an older Lenovo X1) and I'm quite happy with it. Not an iPad replacement at all, mainly due to the lack of apps developed for touch control.
    But there's quite a number of synths and effects that work well enough and touching knibs and faders is mostly better than tweaking them with a mouse pointer.

    Ableton Live also works quite well when in higher zoom settings.

    For playing notes and chords and a for a few go-to controls without the typical hardware MIDI controller hassle, XotoPad has proven to be very useful.

    Oh, and it does have a headphones port :D

    Bitwig is optimized for touch and I have to say it was a rather impressive experience on a MS surface. Not perfect but far better than what I was expecting.

    Oh! What is it!? :D

  • @sevenape said:
    Used it quite a bit on my Asus mini tablet thing back in the day...

    I've got an Asus eeePC - it has about 1gb of RAM in it but it does have a touch screen. It hated windows so I put Linux on it and now it's a chunk little SLSK machine :smiley:

  • @PeteSasqwax said:

    @sevenape said:
    Used it quite a bit on my Asus mini tablet thing back in the day...

    I've got an Asus eeePC - it has about 1gb of RAM in it but it does have a touch screen. It hated windows so I put Linux on it and now it's a chunk little SLSK machine :smiley:

    amazing! I love those netbook things! My main laptop is just 11" to try to keep the dream alive!

  • @sevenape said:

    @PeteSasqwax said:

    @sevenape said:
    Used it quite a bit on my Asus mini tablet thing back in the day...

    I've got an Asus eeePC - it has about 1gb of RAM in it but it does have a touch screen. It hated windows so I put Linux on it and now it's a chunk little SLSK machine :smiley:

    amazing! I love those netbook things! My main laptop is just 11" to try to keep the dream alive!

    If those ATOMs only had more beef. Hard to run current synths on it with decent polyphony,
    Much older software (say, more than 12-15 years old) runs well on it though.

  • @sevenape said:
    Oh! What is it!? :D

    https://www.bitwig.com

    its ableton with a fair amount of "the suck" removed

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @sevenape said:
    Oh! What is it!? :D

    https://www.bitwig.com

    its ableton with a fair amount of "the suck" removed

    awesome thanks!!

  • @rs2000 said:

    @sevenape said:

    @PeteSasqwax said:

    @sevenape said:
    Used it quite a bit on my Asus mini tablet thing back in the day...

    I've got an Asus eeePC - it has about 1gb of RAM in it but it does have a touch screen. It hated windows so I put Linux on it and now it's a chunk little SLSK machine :smiley:

    amazing! I love those netbook things! My main laptop is just 11" to try to keep the dream alive!

    If those ATOMs only had more beef. Hard to run current synths on it with decent polyphony,
    Much older software (say, more than 12-15 years old) runs well on it though.

    Yeah I've been eyeing up those gpd mini laptops for a while now, but can't justify it. For now portable tablet windows is kind of amazing for me

  • Yeah, ultimately I could run PD on it and Sunvox (obvs). I'm intrigued about whether I could put Patchbox OS on it

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @sevenape said:
    Oh! What is it!? :D

    https://www.bitwig.com

    its ableton with a fair amount of "the suck" removed

    If anyone wants a bitwig 8 track license I have one from the plugin boutique giveaway last month that I won’t use. Just send me a message and you can have it.

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