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In The Light Of Dreams / CubeSynthPro, AddStation (McD’s Poll request)

Edit: @McD’s request I remixed mostly without drums. He suggested a poll. Which version do you prefer if you have the time to listen?

Thanks to @Paulieworld for requesting some synth stuff. It fits in with a new theme for an album of sleep/dream tracks. There’s more to life than jazz, after all.

Thanks also to @Spidericemidas for two great sound designs on AddStation. Also 2x CubeSynthPro and 2x FutureDrummer.

A note about CubeSynthPro. It is a beautiful tool with a unique quality. Part of that is positively insectivorous. The cicada like sound if from CubeSynthPro.

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Comments

  • That was splendid! Love the shimmering intro. This is just my type of thing. I could hear some elements of my favourites in there, Ozrics, Tangerine Dream, Jean Michel Jarre...Nice work!

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    That's what I'm talkin' about! My office PC speakers aren't cutting it. I will listen on my 'good' stuff tonight. Engaging composition pulled me in and held me.

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    Thanks @Spidericemidas, that ethereal beginning is all your sound design. Just a few notes by me.
    @Paulieworld, glad you liked it. What do you listen on at home? And thanks for the inspiration to return to synthing. 😘🙏

  • @LinearLineman said:
    Thanks @Spidericemidas, that ethereal beginning is all your sound design. Just a few notes by me.
    @Paulieworld, glad you liked it. What do you listen on at home? And thanks for the inspiration to return to synthing. 😘🙏

    That’s good to know, thanks! It’s the kind of thing I designed them for, and glad to see they worked nicely for you in this piece.

  • I have a very good pair of Sony headphones. They were probably the most expensive I ever bought but... buy once, cry once. I am looking forward to listening to this when I get home.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    There’s more to life than jazz, after all.

    What!? When you are under the power of the Jazz Acolyte's Zeal (of the) Zealot (JAZZ) it is all consuming. You work on skills and performing for hours and hours. It's a true mission and only the believers are able to make a living out of it. It's not a hobby. Once you achieve a level of success you can consider other things like dating, etc.

    Now... some that are truly blessed in the Holy Music will experiment in exposing the joys of sound by dabbling in other less ordained forms of improvised music:

    • Coltrane explored the scales of other cultures
    • Miles created a band of young hipsters and got a couple extra albums out at the end that sold well
    • Kenny G embraced the dark side of Smooth Jazz Radio and was able to book arenas

    I look forward to a whole album of "sell out music" @Linearlineman. You deserve to sell some albums and get that new hardware you covet.

  • I enjoyed that very, very much. The production is excellent. The musical content is even better. I can't help but think that this was carefully planned, although you may never admit that. All of the parts unfolded like a nice short story. I heard a few simple but powerful themes that fit together seamlessly. I liked how the kick drum melted in and out creating unexpected rhythmic distraction. Everything just worked, and I walked away from the table hungry for a little more.

  • When you are adding extra lines against a crisp Arp it's perfect.

    But when the Drummer joins it all falls apart for me. I'd recommend you excise the drummer
    and re-release this and ask for a poll of responses.

    You had a rhythmically complex piece holding me enthralled with your choices and the beauty of these synths and it all crumbled as the pulse and groove fell apart.

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    @McD, I’ll try that. The arp and the bpm did not sync in my CB project. So I had to guess the bpm against a mixed down wav of the instruments. I settled at 108. I did hear the drums phase in and out. Not sure why that would happen if both are running at a set speed. Shouldn’t one just run ahead of the other? Instead for much of the time they are in sync, but then they fall out. I played to a click track but, lol, I have to admit I couldn’t pay attention to it because I was listening to the arp.

    Close enough for government work, but for a J.K Simmons Drummer, such as yourself, I can see where it would be excruciating.

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    @McD, I mixed the drums out except at 2:50. The tempo shift and contra rhythm was cool at that part. Your opinion? @Paulieworld @Spidericemidas pls give a listen.

  • I really enjoyed the second version... the drummer's drugs kick in around 3:10 and he drags the party way back. After this gig I'd have to tell him he passed out for 3/4's of the tune and when he did come in he couldn't find the beat. Final warning: Stop taking drugs on this tour or you're on the next plane home. The band sounds better without you.

    Musically this is like the coolest "Tangerine Dreams" tune I've ever heard. They wish they could mix up the time signatures and keep the musicians in the audience guessing where the One is... no friggin' Boom-Boom-Boom-Boom bullshit but these light, evolving, morphing arps and flight without gravity... a musical freefall without a solid frame of reference.

    "May I have some more, please." I'd buy an album of this shit for making my mind stop talking to itself.

  • I thought the second version was very good. It preserved the musical qualities of the original very well. It's a very good song. However... the original had something that I can't quite describe. It made me question my sense of timing for a few seconds, and I liked it! It was rhythmic sleight of hand.

    Your explanation above gives some insight to the mechanics, but doesn't fully explain the effect as I heard it. I rewound that section a dozen times trying to figure it out. I'm glad you kept the original intact. I would like to do something similar in a style that I can call my own.

    In a previous post you compared music with food. I completely agree. Everybody has their own preference. I like strong tasting food. In Iceland they have an expression 'Rúsínan í pylsuendanum' which roughly translates to 'The raisin at the end of the sausage'. Mmmm... It refers to something unexpected that some will love and some will hate. I loved it!

  • Very nice and Jarre-y. Poll: I think the drums worked well here; only thing is that for me its weird to have them fade in/out as opposed to crashing in.

  • @JudasZimmerman said:
    Very nice and Jarre-y. Poll: I think the drums worked well here; only thing is that for me its weird to have them fade in/out as opposed to crashing in.

    That’s an interesting point @JudasZimmerman. It’s not conventional to use drums that way. I can’t claim it’s something new, but I guess it could take some getting used to. I wonder if @McD would care to opine on this…. Being a drummer he might not like being faded in and out willynilly . Does the same “weirdness” apply to a piano fading in and out? It’s a percussive instrument, after all.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    That’s an interesting point @JudasZimmerman. It’s not conventional to use drums that way. I can’t claim it’s something new, but I guess it could take some getting used to. I wonder if @McD would care to opine on this…. Being a drummer he might not like being faded in and out willynilly . Does the same “weirdness” apply to a piano fading in and out? It’s a percussive instrument, after all.

    For me, absolutely; but probably not to the same extent as for drums..

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