"A.I." (Machine Learning Algorithms) To Generate Art

knewspeak

@echoopera said:

@knewspeak said:

@echoopera said:
The machine has become more than a tree. It is a vast forest and network with many offerings.

Some seek the forbidden while others place composts on the heap to yield new varietals and opportunities.

If life and history has taught us anything, what Prometheus brought to humanity changed the world. How we use the flame is another matter altogether.

Reap what you sow is the essence of our nature so bear this in mind with all things we touch.

What we sow now will bear fruit for our children, to those, yet without existence, all of them, we have a duty of care.

Prometheus brought knowledge, both good and bad, it’s implementation without wisdom could well be the ultimate stupidity.

Now we’re just talking in circles. 🤪 Waxing poetic i think they call it.

What are you saying?

Unplug the system?
Regulate it?
Take it to court and resolve the IP issue?
Treat it like a streaming service and pay all the artists referenced in the image making outputs when their signal is used?
All of the above?
😉

They’re some of the issues and debate in regards to the cost or benefits to society, or just suck it and see, it’s up to people.

NeuM

@AudioGus said:

@NeuM said:

@AudioGus said:

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Popcorn indeed

Like I said, this is about money and these vast repositories of art and imagery will want to be compensated via licensing for the use of their property. That's all. Same goes for artists and illustrators. They should work out deals and then these art tools would make the original artists money and be able to provide customers with the best possible foundation for creating new works of art.

Thing is with the Richard Prince one in 2013 buddy just slapped a cutout of a guitar on someone else's photo and added some dots on the face and they actually won in court. Looks a lot more like the original to me then the Getty Ball mutation. But yah maybe the big olde web scrape is a different thing then collage boy.

https://www.artnews.com/art-in-america/features/richard-prince-wins-major-victory-in-landmark-copyright-suit-59404/

Yeah, I don't think a minor alteration of someone else's work could ever really be considered a sufficiently unique new work of art. A person can't slap their signature onto a Warhol and then claim it as their own.

knewspeak

@NeuM said:

@supadom said:

@echoopera said:

@supadom said:
@echoopera You make comparison to sampling. Well, it’s a spectrum. There’s those who mush 2 songs together DJ style and call themselves producers. There’s other who use the sampling form in a more subtle way.
Who is the judge here?

I’m equating it to how i use it. I can only judge myself and talk about my process. I have no control over what others do or think on the matter.

But i do have my opinions of course 🤪

Absolutely, I’m not pointing fingers at you at all, or at nobody in particular, in fact. I’m just musing about dilution of skill, of which (skill) there’s plenty of around, no doubt. Although I find it rather like the fake news situation where it’s hard to tell one thing from another.

I’m not saying that IA cannot be used positively, just it confuses the shit out of me as it seems to be breaking some well established hierarchies. Maybe that’s what progress is supposed to do, I don’t know…and maybe that’s how people’s art takes the revenge on the privileged. As I said, I’m well confused by it. Especially when my friends some of whom are decent songwriters tell me how they’re using IA in times of creative drought.

In school, the everybody gets a medal always rubbed me the wrong way but it sure has its merits.

Frankly, it doesn't surprise me that your songwriter friends should use these tools. They're tools. Artists and musicians are typically the first to adopt new things, and I see no difference with machine learning tools.

I’d argue it’s the military that are early adopters.

MadeofWax

I don't have the space to try this on my iPad (too much music stuff!) but if anyone is interested I saw this app being discussed at the Stable Diffusion subreddit r/ StableDiffusion .
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/draw-things-ai-generation/id6444050820
The initial download is only 34.6 MB but after it installs it requires a 2gig download for the model. iPhone X's and up, macOS 12.4 and above. Runs Stable Diffusion from 1.5 to 2.1 in resolutions up to 960x960 according to the developer.
In case anyone is interested.

AudioGus

@MadeofWax said:
I don't have the space to try this on my iPad (too much music stuff!) but if anyone is interested I saw this app being discussed at the Stable Diffusion subreddit r/ StableDiffusion .
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/draw-things-ai-generation/id6444050820
The initial download is only 34.6 MB but after it installs it requires a 2gig download for the model. iPhone X's and up, macOS 12.4 and above. Runs Stable Diffusion from 1.5 to 2.1 in resolutions up to 960x960 according to the developer.
In case anyone is interested.

Pretty impressive for a free app!

Edward_Alexander

@MadeofWax said:
I don't have the space to try this on my iPad (too much music stuff!) but if anyone is interested I saw this app being discussed at the Stable Diffusion subreddit r/ StableDiffusion .
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/draw-things-ai-generation/id6444050820
The initial download is only 34.6 MB but after it installs it requires a 2gig download for the model. iPhone X's and up, macOS 12.4 and above. Runs Stable Diffusion from 1.5 to 2.1 in resolutions up to 960x960 according to the developer.
In case anyone is interested.

Pretty impressive for a free app!

Agreed!

echoopera

Have a goodnight everyone…and a great morning:

waka_x

https://tinyurl.com/aistudies

Identor

Without AI, you can create content that seems odd, but recognisable

Gavinski

Not sure if this has been mentioned

https://scribblediffusion.com/?utm_source=tldrai

No sign up or ads

I did a purposefully terrible 2 second scribble with finger on phone screen

Added prompt 'old man playing guqin'

Image generated (lo res, this is only a demo):

AlexY

Interesting blog on using chatgpt to generate musicxml: http://holovaty.com/writing/chatgpt-music-generation/

echoopera

@Gavinski said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned

https://scribblediffusion.com/?utm_source=tldrai

No sign up or ads

I did a purposefully terrible 2 second scribble with finger on phone screen

Added prompt 'old man playing guqin'

Image generated (lo res, this is only a demo):

Oh wow...it is amazing:

NeuM

Haha.

Syn

way too much fun

AudioGus

AudioGus

MJ V5 has vastly improved beach goths...

echoopera

Exploring the little winged ones tonight:

Sam23

https://udaipurtimes.com/news/beyond-udaipur/artist-used-ai-to-paint-past-photos/cid10338717.htm

echoopera

@AudioGus Seen this?

AudioGus

@echoopera said:
@AudioGus Seen this?

Will be interesting to see what they do! I have seen some AI demos in Maya that were cool.

echoopera

Some more art for the group:
Landscape

SuperDAW

NeuM

@echoopera said:
Some more art for the group:
Landscape

SuperDAW

Those are so cool.

echoopera

Another landscape piece:

Thanks @NeuM Glad you like the pieces.

AudioGus

tyslothrop1

Scribble diffusion works great with artist styles, too. Here's king Kong in the style of Munch's Scream:

waka_x

the ones I did are grouped here:
https://tinyurl.com/aistudies

echoopera

Good morning everyone. Happy Monday!

NeuM

@echoopera said:
Good morning everyone. Happy Monday!

You’ve gotten really good at this style.

echoopera

@NeuM said:

@echoopera said:
Good morning everyone. Happy Monday!

You’ve gotten really good at this style.

Thanks.

I hope so. I’ve had it for over 20 years 🤪 i just do it all digitally now:

MrStochastic

@echoopera said:
I’ve had it for over 20 years 🤪 i just do it all digitally now:

@echoopera , I enjoy seeing your artwork. Do you offer them for sale online? if so where? I'm curious what kind of venues there are currently for digital art.