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I'm very interested to hear how much you've experimented with Tomofon and what you think of it. Did you buy it or just play with the demo? Does the demo have any limits other than time / silence etc?
As you have a wide expertise in both software and hardware synthesis, would love to hear your pros / cons review of Tomofon, what you would use it for and in which cases you would prefer other synths
I've played with the demo (it does silence audio at times).
My short summary: It's mostly a wavetable synth but its secret lies in how it can generate and handle wavetables.
Building your own wavetables is a p.i.t.a. as you may know if you really want them to sound "natural" when scanning through them. I've thrown different samples into Tomofon, let it build its wavetable(s) and mapping over multiple octaves and I was stunned how usable the results were.
Sound-wise I'd describe the results as somewhere in between a sampler, a wavetable synth and a granular synth.
It's definitely a lot of fun to dig out long-unused samples and let Tomofon do its thing. Fully automatic if you want.
Looking at early instruments from Klevgrand which I never really cared about, this is a huge step forward.
Thanks! Have you mostly been using its automatic import function or diving more into the manual functions? Those look a bit complicated, judging from the manual
I found that trying tomofon made me return to the ableton internal wavetable synth, seems a bit simpler in the interface and usability, with less ‘smoothed out’ results; I found wildly different samples would sound very similar to each other in the brief experiments I made…
Would be interested to hear a bit of back and forth between you two on this topic!
I’ve got a feeling that my opinion is strongly weighted by the combination of the network I’m putting in (valve stuff that might sound different, but has similar pulse based waveforms at the base of them), and the fact that I’ve got so many options now (including an arbhar 😬) and I’m doing that thing of trying to use what I’ve got already - I liked your longish post in another thread talking about that Gav👍
Cheers Chris, in these lean economic times we definitely need to be picky about what we purchase.
Slightly off topic, I also noticed while searching for 'reviews' of Tomofon that most of the big websites just do a rehash or often a complete cut n paste job of klevgrand's web page and / or manual. Hard to find quality resources where people have really dived in and explained things in their own words and with their own opinions. There are one or two, but very few. Gearspace comments also pretty thin on the ground as this is quite new. After Black Friday seems a bad time to launch an app. Most people have already bitten off far more than they can chew 😂
It’s the headspace as much as the cash tbh, maybe more so; I’ve had a splurge the last year or two, and I’m only just starting to catch up with myself. I was so much more productive when I only had three synths, one or two of each effect and only a few ways to put them together… I’m not one to deny myself the pleasures of all this fun stuff though, so I’ll soldier on learning it all and having fun, even get new stuff that does grab me, but then appreciate the occasional burst of productive output as a bonus 😄
Yeah! There are also those for whom just learning and figuring out apps is their main source of pleasure. If they can afford everything that comes out and don’t care about making finished tracks etc, that’s also a valid choice, I guess.
Absolutely, I’m not charting anytime soon, so wanting to be productive is only a choice, and as well you know, I enjoy fiddling and figuring stuff out as much as the next Gav 😅
Top quality punnage lol - you got me!
Hehe - indeed, and being poductive is also about choosing wisely what to spend my little time with and what to avoid.
😁 I aim to please 🙏
Still awaiting your response to Krupa’s earlier comment about Ableton Wavetable Synth vs tomofon!
The main difference is that Ableton only imports ready-made wavetables. It can do some barebones phase alignment between frames and level normalisation but that's about it.
Tomofon allows you to drop in any sample(s) and it will take care of building a complete wavetable on its own. If you've ever used the wavetable editor in Serum then you know what kind of work I'm talking about 😊
Ah mad, I regularly drop silly big wave files into ableton wavetable and just roll with the results; it sounds somewhat like what I’m expecting it to, glitchy and irregular with interesting modulations possible, while tomofun smooths it all into a kind of pleasing mushy sound.. it is probably doing very clever things with my basic pulse wave stuff and reducing it to the simplicity that it actually is…
I’m still struggling to get usable results in serum, definitely getting some, but it is hard work as you say!
Thanks, yeah that auto wavetable building function is the main thing I guess then
FWIW, 1010music makes their factory content available for download if you want to give those samples a try
I feel like Lemon Drop would be an amazing 25 key, keyboard and would justify the $399 price point, doubling as a MIDI controller.
Ooh. I'm off to seek that out.
I keep picturing it as a bright yellow keyboard and a touchscreen above it 😍
Still searching. If anyone knows a link for these, do share. If I find it, I'll drop it here later.
That may be a little extreme for me!
@andowrites Register on the forum, then you have access to the support files.
I found the Lemondrop source files, there's link to them in this post on the 1010music forum:
https://forum.1010music.com/forum/product-downloads/nanobox-firmware-downloads/nanobox-lemondrop-downloads/31448-lemondrop-disk-image
Post details: If you need to recreate a Lemondrop micro SD card you will need two things: Firmware and content. The firmware is available separately and changes often. The content, including presets and WAV files, is available below. Please unpack the zip file and place the contents in the root of the micro SD card.
You'll need to register for the forum before you can download them.
There are 311 .wav files in the samples folder of the download. Plus the LemonDrop files. The .wavs might be fun to put through some granulation.
Thanks @Grandbear, for setting me out on the search.
…and if you're interested in the 1010music Fireball source samples, here's a link to find those too.
https://forum.1010music.com/forum/product-downloads/nanobox-firmware-downloads/nanobox-fireball-downloads/31449-fireball-disk-image
I assume you don't need to recreate a lemon drop ad card to download these? Let us know how you get on Ando, I'd be curious to check these out too!
No. Both .zip files contain a folder of .wav files. They play on my MacBook Pro no problem. The Lemondrop folder contains a load of .nnl files (presets, presumably), and the Fireball contains a load of .nnf files. In the Lemondrop folder, there's a samples folder called Samples, containing the .wav files, and in the Fireball folder, the samples folder is called Factory.