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Why we should always update to the latest iOS
Here in the forum I read quite often that people don’t update their iPad and I really think that’s bad. Are you aware that you are a danger for everyone? Yes, everyone. Not just for yourself, but for everyone. It’s not even far fetched to say that you are endangering democracy by refusing to update your device. Sounds dramatic and I think it is.
Every software has vulnerabilities - that includes operating systems. Usually as soon as a vulnerability is known the vendor starts working on a patch that is fixing it. If your device has a vulnerability it means that it can be exploited to take control over it. Usually that means that the attacker executes code on your device without that you notice it. Yes, iOS has got the sandboxing and a non-jailbroken device can not sideload apps but still there are ways for remote code execution. Look at the list of vulnerabilities, especially the red ones: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/product_id-15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html
Very often you don‘t notice the attack. The attacker is not after you but rather wants to use your device for taking part in distributed attacks. This is usually done by black hat hackers who took control over thousands of devices. These botnets are then used to take down websites by overloading them, spread fake news or even manipulate elections.
It’s alright to wait a bit before you update to a new major release and let Apple iron out the worst bugs. But I would always recommend to do updates to new minor versions soon after their release. Remember that you iDevice is a connected device. It is a perfect target. I think you shouldn’t run an OS version that is several years old - you can be sure that it is vulnerable. Same as you shouldn’t drive with tires that are several years old.
- What is your update policy?53 votes
- I don’t fear the bleeding edge. Beta, here I come.5.66%
- Official releases as soon as they are available.39.62%
- I wait until the dust has settled.28.30%
- Minor versions soon, major versions after the first maintenance release.11.32%
- I don‘t update unless I have to (because new app release require it).11.32%
- Never ever - till death us sever.3.77%
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On the other hand, if your sole use for the device is making music and crucial apps you use don’t work …
I don’t update on my Pro cause… well, it refuses to. Is it hacking itself?
Exactly this. I keep some older devices essentially frozen in time and just never connect them to the internet, they’ve become solely musical devices.
My phone and work devices get updated when security patches are issued, but that’s because they still connect to the internet and are intended to be multifunctional.
My iPad is for music making only and therefore staying on iOS13. If I update to anything above that, I will lose full functionality of Mitosynth in Cubasis (as confirmed by other users who updated when iOS14 dropped).
I have spoken to Canis at Wooji about this on several occasions, and the reply is always that Mitosynth is too old to allocate time and resources to for keeping it working on later OS updates.
Mitosynth is essential in my music making, one of my most used synths, so I am not prepared to let it go. Besides which, I expect something I paid for only 5 years ago to still be working!
My iPad stays in constant airplane mode unless I am downloading a new music app or uploading a track or a soundbank.
Everything I have works perfectly as it is and provides me with everything I need to create, and it’s infuriating nonsense to have something I own, suddenly broken by other parties completely out of my control.
This means I have to miss out on a few synths and apps that only run on 14 and above, but that’s fine with me and it’s a tiny price to pay for not losing one of my most used and essential synths. The other 300+ music apps on my iPad are way more than enough to create anything I can think of.
I don't think the age of the tyres matters. It is how worn they are.
Instead, we should have a thread dedicated to how we ended up such consumeristic slaves, with planned obsolence shit becoming the norm.
@Spidericemidas If you really don’t connect the iPad to the internet you should be reasonably safe.
Apple is known to be quite ruthless when phasing out old stuff. That has definitely some advantages regarding maintenance costs and quality and I think also for the stability but it means that older apps that are not being maintained anymore might cease to work. The other extreme is Windows where the backwards compatibility is religion and you still can run old MSDOS software from the 1980s.
What could be a solution would be a sandboxed VM on the iDevice that runs old kernels and OS virtualized and could host old apps. I‘m sure the M1 has powerful virtualization features - rosetta is using that with an excellent performance.
I’m rather update friendly. For example the new integration between Mac and iPad really revolutionized my workflow.
But the rubber is aging. Anyway, true that it’s a stupid analogy.
I always keep things up to date, but I only use software from developers that have shown a track record of also keeping their apps up to date. If there’s a danger an app isn’t going to be supported in the near future due to iOS updates, I’m not going to want to use it anyway.
When I updated from 13.7 to 15.1 I lost the use of some apps that were important to my work flow. Until then I was updating all the time and everything pretty much continued working for me. After that last experience though I am a little concerned. Too bad there isn't a way to keep track here of all the apps and which iOS versions they work in.
Yeah I’m pretty safe. I only allow brief internet connections for uploading and downloading music-related stuff.
I think I joined the platform at iOS9 and I was actually a regular updater of everything until iOS14 broke Mitosynth. I’m not averse to updating so long as the tools I use continue to be maintained by their Devs.
My iPad will remain frozen like this now. Going forwards, if I ever reach the point where I think I really need the latest apps to continue my music on the latest OS, I will buy a new iPad and again keep everything updated until such time that an update breaks something permanently again...
I like the idea of some kind of backwards compatibility or emulator on iOS that could run older apps needing an older OS.
For someone who started with iOS 3.2.x (yeah, i remember hype days when noise.io was the crazyiest synth and beatmaker 1 was the hottest sampler)... extreme lack of backwards compatibility / fact that with each OS update so many apps are broken (and many dont have people to update them anymore) + often when devs do the updating, it ends up removing support for users with older os/hardware... so its double edge sword... anyway, its among greatest tragedies and "sins" with apple music making scene, for me. Both here and with macs.
Im surprised we dont have, like, 60 pages long thread on it. Guess, many folks here are different type of customers and such stuff aint important to them. Especially when "there is always another app to replace the previous one" approach. Personally, im not like that. Im type of user who would use specific software for 10+ years. Hence i still have ipod touch 2g and other legacy devices as time machine instruments. Still, i already lost many of apps i paid for in the past. And the list is raising.
Afaik if there are serious threats than apple could issue an update even to an older iOS version. F.e my mini2 is maxed out at iOS 12.x... should I bin it for sake of democracy? Apple is using all the tools at its disposal to be able to say most of our users are on the latest... which is fine by me, but most of the time this means you’re chasing something, never reaching it but have to adjust your behaviour all the time... as a customer I just want to find my own comfortable way of using my device without worrying all the time what may go wrong or how to readjust... yearly releases mean by the time you’re comfortable with something, and it’s robust, it’s time to f*ck up everything again... and obviously no way to go back...
My main devices stay on 13.7 because updates brought nothing of interest and they do things the way I’m used to.
Apple will do some security updates for devices that are stuck on an older version of iOS for some time. They don't state how long they will do this for. There are a number of devices that are stuck on iOS 12, so there have been security updates for it. As far as I know, there aren't any devices stuck on anything 13 or above at this time. So, to get security updates you have to update to the latest. That was why the statement by Apple that you could remain on 14 was exciting --- until they backtracked on it and starting killing 14 by not signing it or providing updates for it.
Correct they’re not stuck (Air3, 6s+), but I see no reason to update them. On the other hand my air2 became a useless brick as soon as it accidentally went 14.x when left on charger overnight... I couldn’t care less how will it perform on 15.x either so updated, it’s still a useless brick... imo air2 should have been left behind at 13
I play the odds (security vs. potential usage interruption) on major updates since it's been years and years since a major release hasn't affected at least some apps I use. "Minor versions soon, major versions after the first maintenance release" doesn't fit because it can and has been more than one maintenance release before the dust settles.
Minor updates usually within a week or two, just to be sure. The exception would be if a major exploit is reported in the wild - which I would know about, being hooked into that sort of news.
The Air 2 is almost certainly going to turn into a frozen / offline device with iOS 15. It just really, really feels like 16 is going to be that "one update too far".
That's unfortunate about your Air 2. It would be very responsible if Apple maintained downloads of all past OS versions, kinda like they do for the Mac to a much greater degree (although even there they can make them hard to find). I believe that they should also provide security updates for at a minimum the last three OS versions. That would be consistent with their "update your apps every three years or be deleted stance."
My spouse and I both have iPhone 6 phones --- so, stuck on iOS 12. We were gifted an SE 2 about a month ago and we've both been trying to convince each other to use the newer phone. It seems that neither of us feels much need to upgrade from iOS 12. This is for the phone only though. Universal Control on the iPad has made iPadOS 15 a must for me.
I don't know how to answer the poll. I've been on the latest beta for years until a few days ago when I stopped updating my iPad past the release version. The beta was breaking Universal Control and that has become an important tool for me. Synching Xcode and iOS version for dev, testing, and release has always been a bit of a pain, but now that Apple has complicated things further by breaking UC with beta releases of iOS, I'm giving up on making sure that my apps are OK with the new upcoming OS versions until they are released.
Apple already requires that you submit uploads to the App Store with the current release of Xcode. The current release of Xcode doesn't usually work with the beta versions of iOS for testing. So, Apple is almost forcing the choice of "Minor versions soon, major versions after the first maintenance release" on users that want to make sure that the software they are using has been tested against the OS. That's the choice I made for the poll.
All this stuff makes me wonder about companies that use iPads for PoS systems. I can't even begin to figure out how they handle the security vs. stability equation on iOS.