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Klevgrand Haaze 2 & Pana any good ?

JanKunJanKun
edited May 2022 in General App Discussion

All Klevgrand apps are currently on sale. I have been wondering for a long time about Haaze 2 and found out they have another similar app, Pana, which I completely missed when it was released. so I thought I might ask your opinions.

Are these any good or is it possible to achieve similar results with combination of short delays and EQ? And if you consider these useful, Would you say they are redundant or do they both offer something unique? Which one would you recommend the most?

Haaze 2 / Pana ?
  1. Which one would you recommend ?11 votes
    1. Haaze 2
      18.18%
    2. Pana
        0.00%
    3. Get both, dude
      27.27%
    4. Better get yourself a couple of beers.
      54.55%

Comments

  • GavinskiGavinski

    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    Did you experience a massive popping sound with Panstation?

  • HotStrangeHotStrange

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    I’ve seen lots of comments like this about Audio Damage. What is their deal exactly? I’ve never dealt with them directly so I have no experience. I love their apps, but lots of folks seem to have had bad customer service experiences with them.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    Did you experience a massive popping sound with Panstation?

    Yep - the kind of thing that can literally destroy your expensive headphones in a split second. They don't give a fuck. Great, creative apps, horrible dev team

  • BirbHopeBirbHope
    edited May 2022

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    Did you experience a massive popping sound with Panstation?

    Yep - the kind of thing that can literally destroy your expensive headphones in a split second. They don't give a fuck. Great, creative apps, horrible dev team

    I keep running into similar comments. What’s their damage? They don’t answer emails? Or don't acknowledge the issue when they do? Or just say, ‘oh well, shit happens’ or…?

  • AileromAilerom

    I think it is a personality thing. The public face is arrogant, judgemental, quick to explode at the slightest query. I have not had a problem in over 10 years but I haven't really needed support. It is pretty clear that someone else should be there public face on the internet. Plenty of others have done that when they realise their way is affecting business.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    Did you experience a massive popping sound with Panstation?

    Yep - the kind of thing that can literally destroy your expensive headphones in a split second. They don't give a fuck. Great, creative apps, horrible dev team

    You know, I’ve had that exact same issue with Caelum Audio’s Tape Pro (on both iOS and macOS, ever since I bought them). I have had such earshattering experiences with that app, I fear I’ll never use it again.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    Did you experience a massive popping sound with Panstation?

    Yep - the kind of thing that can literally destroy your expensive headphones in a split second. They don't give a fuck. Great, creative apps, horrible dev team

    You know, I’ve had that exact same issue with Caelum Audio’s Tape Pro (on both iOS and macOS, ever since I bought them). I have had such earshattering experiences with that app, I fear I’ll never use it again.

    Damn, i never ran into that there.

    @BirbHope said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    Did you experience a massive popping sound with Panstation?

    Yep - the kind of thing that can literally destroy your expensive headphones in a split second. They don't give a fuck. Great, creative apps, horrible dev team

    I keep running into similar comments. What’s their damage? They don’t answer emails? Or don't acknowledge the issue when they do? Or just say, ‘oh well, shit happens’ or…?

    Basically an unwillingness to fix bugs. From what I've read elsewhere they don't see iOS as profitable enough to bother fixing bugs. Generally, when something is released, you get what you get and have to put up or shut up. Plus, yes, the arrogance issue.

  • eylvyeylvy

    I wouldn't say Get Both, but personally I used Haaze 2 more than Pana, better control freedom.

  • tahichetahiche

    Headed over to the AppStore to get more info on Pana and Haaze and ended up buying Borsta and Brusfi.
    My name is Tahiche and I’m an appaholic.

  • jwmmakerofmusicjwmmakerofmusic

    Klevgrand have always been a good company with top plugins, so I'd say get both.

    About Panstation, I'm sure something like that can be easily built in Drambo. :lol: Just saying that @giku_beepstreet always treats their customers right, and their products are consistently top quality.

    Another great panning plugin is Panflow.

  • JanKunJanKun

    @Gavinski said:
    Pana is good for natural sounding panning. My tastes run more towards experimental panning apps like Panstation (though it is buggy for me and almost destroyed my headphones, not that Audio Damage give a damn, least respectful devs out there) or the new free Audiomodern planner. Haaze 2 I have but frankly have barely used. Certainly it sounds good but is very overpriced imo.

    Hi Gavin! Thanks for your reply!
    I completely forgot to download Audiomodern. All there other apps are top notch (especially playbeat and chordjam which are so inspiring).
    Three more I read the answers on this thread, the less interested I am about Klevgrand apps!

  • JanKunJanKun

    @eylvy said:
    I wouldn't say Get Both, but personally I used Haaze 2 more than Pana, better control freedom.

    Thanks for your feedback. Pana doesn't seem to get a lot of love. So I might get Haaze 2.

  • JanKunJanKun

    @tahiche said:
    Headed over to the AppStore to get more info on Pana and Haaze and ended up buying Borsta and Brusfi.
    My name is Tahiche and I’m an appaholic.

    Hi @tahiche ! You came at the right place, together, we can beat this addiction (or make it worst...😉)
    IMO,Brusfri is by far there best app, specially when recording acoustic instrument in room without acoustic treatment. (I wish at some point someone will create a pop and click remover on iOS in the style of Adobe audition, it would definitely be an instabuy)
    Borsta is also really impressive !

  • JanKunJanKun

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    Klevgrand have always been a good company with top plugins, so I'd say get both.

    About Panstation, I'm sure something like that can be easily built in Drambo. :lol: Just saying that @giku_beepstreet always treats their customers right, and their products are consistently top quality.

    Another great panning plugin is Panflow.

    Gonna check Panflow! Their other apps are top notch (playbeat and chordjam in particular)
    Thanks for the tips ! You released great ambient tracks lately! Keep them coming!

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