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Piano motifs in GarageBand
So in the screen capture thread I saw people playing with other instruments using the chords/melodies in piano motifs using Aum
But I don’t have Aum and never really needed it before because my workflow is pretty simple and needs to be that way because of my visual impairment
So I usually start GarageBand and either use the inbuilt instruments or open Audiobus and Set an instrument as inputs and GarageBand as output
How do I use piano motifs to play GarageBand instruments or instruments I have selected in audiobus or would that even work?
Sorry i’m new to everything that has to do with midi except how to connect my midi device to the iPad
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in piano motifs you export your chord progression/melody as a MIDI file. you can export up to 3 files (you have the option to export them as "tracks" and im not sure what that even means unless you opened it in a DAW and then it could just make another track? idk) so you export either just the chords, melody, and the 3rd midi file i believe is for creating pads its like long sustained progressions of the root note/chord in each bar.
or i could be confusing it with a similar app and the 3rd file is actually a bassline made from the lower notes in your chord progression? but i think its the first thing lol.
so what i do is open piano motifs, put in my desired parameters, usually 70 - 95 bpm, lets say... F# Major Key, 1 loop long, etc, etc, then i will listen to what it generates and when i like it i will press next, and this allows you to make a whole new progression, however different you want it. after this you can go into the arrangement tab and rearrange in what order your different progressions will play. you can do more and arrange them in your desired order. then export the midi FILE i do all three because it helps with all the elements in my song usually, and save them in a designated folder.
then once in garageband you should be able to goto your instruments track, and open your files app as a multitask window and then drag and drop the midi file into the piano roll in garageband. or im sure you can go the longer route by actually importing your midi file into garageband and then finding it in your imports.
Hi @amethystswitch,
As @pr4y_4_beats mentioned, you can export MIDI from Piano Motifs to GarageBand. There are several options for MIDI export:
MIDI: One MIDI file with both the melody and accompaniment of the motif will be exported.
MIDI - 2 Files: Two MIDI files will be exported. One for the melody and one for the accompaniment of the motif. NOTE: some applications (like AudioShare) do not accept more than one MIDI file as input.
MIDI Melody: One MIDI file with the melody of the motif will be exported.
MIDI Accomp: One MIDI file with the accompaniment of the motif will be exported.
MIDI - 3 Track: One MIDI file with the melody, the accompaniment and a third track with a sustain chord per bar or a drone tone for the whole motif, will be exported. NOTE: The third track works better for chord and arpeggio accompaniments. In the case of bass accompaniments, the third track will not have a complete chord, but just the bass note. The spoiler below shows the options you have for the third track.
3rd Track: The app can generate a third track for a motif when either MIDI files are exported or when MIDI Out is ON. In "More Settings" you can select what you want the 3rd track to be from the following options:
Chord Sustain: Accompaniment with single chord played. When this type of 3rd track is selected the option of selecting a multi-bar sustain will be displayed. When multi-bar sustain is Off, a chord will be played on the first beat of the bar and will last the whole bar. When multi-bar sustain is On, a chord will be played until there is a chord change in the progression.
Drone: The 3rd track will be a single note that will last for the duration of the motif. When this option is selected a popup screen will be displayed where you can define the drone note and its octave. If the key and scale for the motif haven’t been defined, a set of numbers that represents the corresponding scale notes or chords will be displayed for selection. TIP: For better results, use this 3rd track for instruments that have a constant sustain level like some synth pads, organs, bagpipes, etc. NOTE: In an arrangement the drone tone will change for a section depending on the key and scale of the section.
MIDI - 3 Files: Three MIDI files will be exported. One for the melody, one for the accompaniment and one for the third track. NOTE: some applications (like AudioShare) do not accept more than one MIDI file as input.
Before generating a Motif, go to "More Settings" and make sure MIDI Export Loop Ready is On. This will ensure that all the MIDI tracks will have the same number of bars.
The most complete option is the MIDI - 3 Track option which will export 3 different tracks on a single MIDI file. From there, you can do what @pr4y_4_beats suggested or if you don't have multitasking (iPhone) you can select "Save to Files" and then select "GarageBand for iOS", which brings up a folder called "GarageBand File Transfer". Select that folder and press Save. In GarageBand on a new project, go to the loop icon on the top right hand side. When you press on this icon your MIDI file should be there and you should be able to just drag the file and drop it in the piano roll area. You should now see 3 different tracks using the default instrument (in my case it is the Classical Grand). You can now assign other instruments or edit the tracks if you need to.
Hope this helps
Thx alot I have bought the app now and it’s amazing
You got me to open GarageBand to look for a solution other than file transfers. I saw from
Youtube videos that external MIDI controllers are supported but MIDI networks on the iPad
don't seem to be. This is a reason why avoid this truly amazing app... it's designed to be a walled garden and I prefer open solutions.
It's possible the MIDI from Piano Motifs could be routed to an external MIDI device like the ports found on most audio interfaces (Scarlett, Presonus, etc) and they cable MIDI OUT to MIDI IN and then Piano Motifs MIDI stream might be treated as external hardware.
I did get Piano Motifs to send MIDI into AUM and hit a collection of synths/apps inside AUM and then pipe the resulting audio into GarageBand to record an audio track treating AUM as an IAA app.
Maybe someday Apple will make GarageBand compete against the other 3rd party DAW's and Groovebox apps by opening it up to leverage the software we've got from other sources... through Apple's store. The debates between the application teams and the App Store folks must get pretty intense. Inter-corporate battles are the worst... the CEO has to settle the arguments.
Garageband accepts MIDI in from other iOS apps, not just hardware controllers. If Piano Motifs outputs midi then GarageBand should be able to pick it up. At least that's the case from other apps such as Tonality.
Make sure background audio is enabled in GarageBand settings.
Piano Motifs doesn’t do IAA MIDI… it sends to “Network Session 1” and if AUM is running it lists it too.
I suspect “Network Session 1” might be “Core MIDI”. If anyone knows how to get GarageBand to see an app
Sending on “Network Session 1” drop me a clue. I can’t see anything in GarageBand and a quick survey of
YouTube videos didn’t expose any clues to me. It’s not a huge deal… I have lived without GarageBand and
Will continue to ignore this great, free DAW because Apple just didn’t design it for the way I think and work.
I know there are great sounds and features but it just repels me and I give up and move on.
I have this same reaction to most DAW’s… they irritate me and I forget about them. But I buy them all just in case
I click with something new.