"Marking" faders in AUM ?

moher

Hi,
Is there a way ( apart from taking a screen shot or writing down the value of the db indicator) to somehow mark a slider in AUM?

In a live performance I like to start with all my sliders down to fade in the entry of the tracks manualy and progressively. But quite often I can not remember where is the exact location where I should stop my sliders to keep the balance right respectivly to the other tracks.

If the "set level" fonction could stop the cursor to progress above a certain value it would be amazing.

Any tricks or ideas?

Pierre118

Don't know if this is maybe something :

https://apps.apple.com/nl/app/midimixer-for-aum-auv3-plugin/id1542209150

ronnieb

You could add a gain insert to each channel and use it so that all the faders should be at 0db?

belldu

I've just got MidiMixer and agree its good for this. Remember to set the CC range to -inf to +6 though as by default AUM has -inf to 0 and this is a problem with MidiMixer.

Alternatively, set the channel faders to whatever level you want, then output every channel to a MixBus instead of headphones directly. Then you can fade up the mix bus from -inf from 0 and it will bring them all to the level you want. Multiple mix busses can be used here if you want.

moher

Thank you guys @Pierre118 @ronnieb @belldu for your good advices!
I didn't thought that MidiMixer could do that! Great!! Thx @belldu for your step by step explanations! I'll surely try that!🤗
It would be great also if AUM could do that natively. It would be more straightforward.
Thanks again!

robosardine

You can contain the dB level that you like in the Channel name or the Instance name (or both) - it shows the current dB level at the top of the fader as you move it.

wim

@ronnieb said:
You could add a gain insert to each channel and use it so that all the faders should be at 0db?

That's by far my favorite suggestion so far. I never would have thought of that.
Bonus: double-tap gets you to exactly 0db.

moher

Thank you all guys for all your suggestions!

@robosardine, as you suggested I have been into "control channel" / "volume", but I couldn't find how to set up a maximum value for the fader.

@wim @ronnieb excuse my ignorance but not sure I get it? 🤔
Even with a gain insert, fader course has still the same values.
Could you clarify a bit please?

Thanks really!

ronnieb

@moher said:
Thank you all guys for all your suggestions!

@robosardine, as you suggested I have been into "control channel" / "volume", but I couldn't find how to set up a maximum value for the fader.

@wim @ronnieb excuse my ignorance but not sure I get it? 🤔
Even with a gain insert, fader course has still the same values.
Could you clarify a bit please?

Thanks really!

Just set all the faders to 0db, then use the gain inserts to balance the mix. If you already have a mix you like, then just reduce the gain on the insert by the db reading on the fader, then all faders at 0 gives the same mix.

I’m still waking up so if I didn’t explain that well, just let me know ✌️

moher

@ronnieb said:

@moher said:
Thank you all guys for all your suggestions!

@robosardine, as you suggested I have been into "control channel" / "volume", but I couldn't find how to set up a maximum value for the fader.

@wim @ronnieb excuse my ignorance but not sure I get it? 🤔
Even with a gain insert, fader course has still the same values.
Could you clarify a bit please?

Thanks really!

Just set all the faders to 0db, then use the gain inserts to balance the mix. If you already have a mix you like, then just reduce the gain on the insert by the db reading on the fader, then all faders at 0 gives the same mix.

I’m still waking up so if I didn’t explain that well, just let me know ✌️

Thanks a lot @ronnieb!!
Now I get it! You're definitely right! Great suggestion! So that way the reference mark is always set to 0db!
brilliant idea!! 🤗

uncledave

@moher said:

@ronnieb said:

@moher said:
Thank you all guys for all your suggestions!

@robosardine, as you suggested I have been into "control channel" / "volume", but I couldn't find how to set up a maximum value for the fader.

@wim @ronnieb excuse my ignorance but not sure I get it? 🤔
Even with a gain insert, fader course has still the same values.
Could you clarify a bit please?

Thanks really!

Just set all the faders to 0db, then use the gain inserts to balance the mix. If you already have a mix you like, then just reduce the gain on the insert by the db reading on the fader, then all faders at 0 gives the same mix.

I’m still waking up so if I didn’t explain that well, just let me know ✌️

Thanks a lot @ronnieb!!
Now I get it! You're definitely right! Great suggestion! So that way the reference mark is always set to 0db!
brilliant idea!! 🤗

Yes, it is a good idea. Actually, hardware mixers often (always?) have a gain or level control on each preamp, so you can normalize the levels across the various sources. This allows the faders to focus on balancing the mix.

j_liljedahl

@ronnieb said:
You could add a gain insert to each channel and use it so that all the faders should be at 0db?

I was going to write exactly this. I once worked with a sound engineer that taught me to do it like this (we used physical hardware analog mixing desks): set the input gain knob so that the levels are correct when fader is at 0dB.

There is a gain insert node in AUM, but it only goes +/-24dB. But you could chain two of them together to get down to -48dB. I should add a level node that goes -inf to 0dB..

rcf

I set each output of an active input/instrument/effects channel to a bus send. Then on each of the otherwise empty bus receive/output channels you can ride the faders as much as you like, but bringing them back up to 0db will always give you your original mix levels from the send channels? I also make use of the channel label to note the level settings. And for good measure, a detailed description of all channel settings in AUM Notes. All the extra blank bus receive channels end up using a lot of screen space, but it works for me. Hope I've not misunderstood the question.

Atlesbe

In Procreate you can set sizes of a brush through the size slider, I don’t know if this can be implemented by AUM with volume but it would be very useful.

moher

@j_liljedahl said:

@ronnieb said:
You could add a gain insert to each channel and use it so that all the faders should be at 0db?

I was going to write exactly this. I once worked with a sound engineer that taught me to do it like this (we used physical hardware analog mixing desks): set the input gain knob so that the levels are correct when fader is at 0dB.

There is a gain insert node in AUM, but it only goes +/-24dB. But you could chain two of them together to get down to -48dB. I should add a level node that goes -inf to 0dB..

Thank you all really! @j_liljedah @ronnieb @uncledave @wim @robosardine @Pierre118 @belldu

The gain insert trick works like a charm! 😄

@rcf thanks, I'll try that!

crifytosp

related to this; I like the way FAC Drumkit uses long press the fader to adjust group gain while leaving the mix intact.