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Help needed getting Audio In from hardware synth
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I'm trying to get audio from Mix output jacks on a hardware synth into my iPad Air (USB C) so I can sample it.
I've watched Youtube, done searches, have bought things, but it still doesn't work.
I seem to be suffering a weirdly specific mental decline and I need your help.
My hub is this:
https://alogic.co/business/usb-c-dock-nano-mini-with-usb-a-ultra-series.html
I tried connecting Mix output (merged to Stereo 3.5mm) into the 3.5mm socket on the dock, but the only Hardware input is 'iPad microphone' in AUM.
I then bought a separate adapter, thinking I'd plug it into the USB C port on the dock, or iPad, and that didn't work either:
https://alogic.co/us/elements-pro-usb-c-to-3-5mm-audio-adapter-10cm.html#231=309
So, questions are:
Do people generally connect Audio input through a USB hub or do you plug it straight into the iPad's USB C port?
Can anyone recommend something that'll work for Audio input?
(I know my hardware synth and cable are fine as when I plug in the merged LR Mix jacks from the hardware synth into a 3.5mm stereo speaker it works just fine.)
Thanks!
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I have a USB hub for Audio out from the iPad - for Audio in I use my Audio interface, which has USB C. So: synth goes to Audio Interface, which is connected with the iPad via USB C.
Hi @belldu,
the hub that you got is not what I would dare to use with an iPad. There have been reports where the rigid connection (without a cable going to your iPad port) caused such a tension on the iPad usb c port that it repeatedly broke the port.
Maybe you can get a short usb c extension cable, female to male, to relieve that tension on your port.
The headphone adapter only offers you a mono microphone input.
To get line in you will need a usb audio device. One that does not need any drivers.
What to get depends on your needs and budget. Do you need a microphone or guitar input?
Do you need more than two inputs?
Something I can recommend would be the behringer umc 404 hd.
Thanks for the replies.
Firstly, yes I'm going to get a short extension cable to prevent the dock from doing damage with everything connected. Its fine when I'm holding the iPad but agree when its on a stand connected to music stuff tension is a concern.
And what I'm after is just to get a Stereo Line In from a hardware synth with standard 6.35 L and R jacks that I'm combining into a 3.5mm stereo jack which I then want to plug into USB. So what can folks recommend to go from 3.5mm to USB C for input?
Sounds like you need to invest in an audio interface, like an SSL 2 or something along those lines, it’s only $199.
I use a small behringer usb mixer… q802usb, audio out from usb into Mac or iOS device I used a cck on iPhone iirc.
My usb hub is a nucleum, but you could bypass and plug direct into usbc?
I use a Steinberg UR22C and it works very well. I just unplug it from my computer when I need it for the iPad.
The Zoom U22 is a quality interface for $49. It’s siblings U24 and U44 have more inputs and outputs and give a lot of bang for the buck.
I connect whatever to a Presonus - 2 channel audio/midi interface, interface to a powered hub, then powered hub to idevice
Similar setup to @id_23 , Behringer Q502USB - it's relatively cheap and has the bonus of USB loopback (latency is a bit high but it gets the job done). A nucleum so I can power the iPad and hookup a usb midi controller.
Talking about audio interfaces has anyone tried the Teyun q24 as it can be found
for around £25 and has 24bit 192kHz capabilities and is class compliant.
You need an audio interface, sitting between the synth and the iPad, unless your synth is class-compliant. The interface will ”translate” the audio signal to digital to be able to sample it to your app of choice on the iPad. Picking an audio interface is a monumental task, because the market is huge.
If you want to record your synth in stereo, you need an audio interface with two inputs. You also have to make sure that the interface works with iOS. Most do, but check to be sure. Don’t get the cheapest one, but there is no need to get the most expensive one either. Nowadays most medium or even budget priced interfaces from the larger manufacturers give you very good quality recordings. Audio nerds measuring numbers in detail will of course disagree to an extent, but trust me on this one. Get a well-known brand, pay a reasonable amount of money or get a used one, and you’re set. Just start recording and have fun!
Don’t worry about it further. Once your famous and headline Coachella and other festivals across the world getting there in your own private jet, you can get whatever priced interface you want for whatever reasons😁.
There are tons of videos on YouTube about how to pick the one that is right for you. My choice, to record my hardware synth in stereo which seems to be exactly your situation, is the Arturia Minifuse 2, https://www.thomann.de/gb/arturia_minifuse_2_black.htm.
Good luck!
/DMfan🇸🇪
Thanks all. At least I now know what I'm looking for, I'll do some research and no promises about Coachella!
🙌😁
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