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AUM - Many thanks to j_liljedahl / Kymatica

At the moment there is a lot of hype about STAGE MANAGER and everyone on the web is excited that something like this will (finally) be available soon.

Many outside of our community are not aware that many of these features and more already exist in AUM for many years like moveable and resizeable windows.

Big compliments to @j_liljedahl who worked his magic here. He showed early on what is feasible.

Having worked in software development for over 40 years myself, I can well appreciate what my colleague has created here. And that with an app size of around 6 MB. Always admirable for me.

He has already realized a long time ago, what other iPad or IPhone users had dreamed of so far (with iPhone it will probably stay that way for the time being). STAGE MANAGER will probably only run on M1 iPads for the time being.
AUM on the other hand will run on ALL DEVICES.

Many thanks again @j_liljedahl for a fabulous and admirable app, which offers so many functions, as hardly any other app. I am always thrilled with every (almost daily) use and discover more and more possibilities.

For us music creators, AUM is indispensable.

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  • I second that...

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    If AUM didn’t exist, I wouldn’t be making my noises. It is where I live. (Can we have automation now, please? ;) )

  • With 'Stage Manager' in mind since we'll be hooking out iPad's to a screen using HDMI iPadOS16 needs a way to allow us to select which device we prefer to use for audio-output.

    This since HDMI also carries audio and well...
    ...I do NOT like the current way iOS/iPadOS chooses which device to use (ie. plug-in order).

    Currently If I have my iPadPro hooked to an audio interface via a hub working all nice and dandy and connect the HDMI cable to the hub iPadOS automatically thinks I want to forward the Audio to my TV which is NOT the case. I then need to un-plug/re-plug the interface to get the audio back, like this is 2022 not early 90s. But hey it's Apple 'were doing it wrong' according to them...

    So if anyone is on 'beta' for iPadOS16 please do bombard Apple with requests that we need something similar to Audio & Midi Setup for iPadOS where we can choose our preferred Input & Output devices.

    Sorry for side-tracking the topic, yep I love AUM as well :sunglasses:

    Cheers!

  • @Svetlovska said:
    If AUM didn’t exist, I wouldn’t be making my noises. It is where I live. (Can we have automation now, please? ;) )

    I love working in AUM. I think automation is the only thing that makes me resort to Cubasis sometimes. (I mean being able to directly record automation from thouching the AU knobs, is that what you mean?)

  • Entirely agree. AUM is where I do my music. I’ve used other things in the past, but AUM makes me so productive it’s verging on scary, and integrating iOS and hardware synths is made about as easy as it gets with AUM.

    Plus Jonatan has achieved the virtually impossible, in that AUM is deceptively simple while being simultaneously deep, with all sorts of features you don’t initially expect to be there.

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    @prtr_jan : yes. Just precisely and intentionally automating the faders and mutes of AUM itself would be a massive step forward, (you can already sort-of do it using LFOs) and everything else is theoretically accessible too, because, like those, they are already addressable as MIDI cc values which, for example, MIDILFOs can tweak. All you really need is a way to record that existing automation capability in an editable way.

    I have banged on about this loads to Jonatan, and he recently indicated that he is putting it on the AUM roadmap, possibly as a plug-in/IAP to preserve the purity of vanilla AUM for those who don’t want or need it.

    My dream would be a per-element click-editable automation timeline ‘graph’ of the sort featured in Cubasis and Ableton arbitrarily available for any automated element, where you can go in after an initial pass, and, while the track is still playing, iteratively click n dragging, or, better, live tweaking values, on as many extra passes as you need.

    In this way, you could ‘build’ a multichannel mix by ear on successive passes, concentrating on overdubbing just the automation for maybe one channel, instrument, fx, fader drag or button press, whatever, at a time if you wanted or needed to. That would be fab…

    No need for AUM to get more feature-creep complicated than that, because other tools can already exist within it for audio looping (Loopy Pro), piano roll midi capture and editing (Atom), and so on.

  • @Svetlovska have you played with MIDI Mixer? It does some of what you're asking - you can set different levels for AUM channels, save it in MIDI Mixer, then set another set of levels, save it, and so on. Then when AUM is running/recording, you can use MIDI Mixer to smoothly transition between those "sets of levels".

    You still need to manually tell MIDI Mixer to switch between those "sets of levels", but it's one step closer to what you're looking for.

  • edited July 2022

    @Svetlovska said:
    My dream would be a per-element click-editable automation timeline ‘graph’ of the sort featured in Cubasis and Ableton arbitrarily available for any automated element, where you can go in after an initial pass, and, while the track is still playing, iteratively click n dragging, or, better, live tweaking values, on as many extra passes as you need.

    In this way, you could ‘build’ a multichannel mix by ear on successive passes, concentrating on overdubbing just the automation for maybe one channel, instrument, fx, fader drag or button press, whatever, at a time if you wanted or needed to. That would be fab…

    This you can easily do in Drambo now. You should seriously consider giving it a go just as a pure host of AU channels + automation experimentation. No need to build any modular stuff.

    AUM is great, no doubt. Bear in mind that automation and a performance screen was also requested and considered at least 5 years ago. Its slow development of such major additions is the main weakness of AUM, I would say. But it is also its strength, kind of, as Jonathan puts great effort (and time!) into thinking about how to keep the process streamlined and fun.

  • edited July 2022

    @monch1962 : got it, don’t like it for my workflow. I need to be able to add and drop channels (and associated automation) on the fly, dupe them, etc. It needs real tight integration with AUM. MIDI Mixers templates are too inflexible for me, and the whole app just gets between me and what I want to do.

    @bleep: yep, Drambo. Didn’t think I’d get far in this thread without it coming up. I’m sure it can. I’ve even got it (and an actual physical modular rack too.) But: nope. This is not the (iPad) workflow I’m looking for, either. For a start, I’d have to understand it. Did I mention how lazy I am?

    I just want AUM.

    Only… better. :)

  • If I want to crap out EDM, Gadget and NS2 are my go-to apps. However, my passion is Ambient these days, and there's no better environment in which to thrive than AUM! You want automation in AUM? You have five fingers on each hand don't you? 😂🤣 It's not uncommon when I'm live-performing Ambient that I have 2 fingers on my left hand adjusting two different knobs while my right hand taps open a plugin and then manipulates a knob or slider in that, kinda like pretending to be an octopus.

  • I'm 46. Began making music two times. Now, thanks Pure Acid, thanks AUM, a third time.

    So much fun on an iPad mini 6 in combination with Akai MIDIMIX.

    Greetz Chris

  • 46? One of the young ones, then ;)

  • @Svetlovska said:
    @bleep: yep, Drambo. Didn’t think I’d get far in this thread without it coming up. I’m sure it can. I’ve even got it (and an actual physical modular rack too.) But: nope. This is not the (iPad) workflow I’m looking for, either. For a start, I’d have to understand it. Did I mention how lazy I am?

    I just want AUM.

    Only… better. :)

    I'm also a big fan of AUM ! It's the place where every project begins for me.
    I have Drambo too and would LOVE to use it more, but I find the learning curve much much very extra much too steep ! I literally admire those who master this beast !... as soon as I manage to understand something, if I fail using the app for more than 2 days, when I relaunch it I'm totally lost again 😰

    In AUM, I always feel "at home"... sweeeeeet home 😁

  • Also, many thanks @j_liljedahl for the AU3FX: Dub, Space, PeakQ, and Push. I’m using these a lot lately even though I have many other excellent plugins.

  • To show AUM “real” love (sorry 😉), let’s try answering this question : if AUM had to go the subscription way - let’s say for sustainability reasons - would you still use it and how much would you accept to pay ?
    Haha, sorry but I was just wondering this...

  • Much as I love AUM - no. I will never, ever pay a subscription for anything. IAP, yes. Subs, never. Not even AUM.

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    @Paulo164 said:
    To show AUM “real” love (sorry 😉), let’s try answering this question : if AUM had to go the subscription way - let’s say for sustainability reasons - would you still use it and how much would you accept to pay ?
    Haha, sorry but I was just wondering this...

    $4.99/month seems like it would be more than reasonable for the anti-subscribers since I use AUM every single day. $9.99/month would be far more fair however. See, it would also help @j_liljedahl maintain and continue to develop AudioShare. I mean for fucksake, have you seen what happened to NS2 and how it's stuck in development hell? Do you really want that to become AUM's fate? 😬

    I have no need for streaming services like Netflix since I rarely watch shows and movies (and when I do, it's usually something by Tarantino, usually "Pulp Fiction" 😂 , that I purchased outright on Prime streaming), so my main sources of entertainment are Spotify (a subscription mind you), Youtube (usually music tutorials and rare albums and user created content from our members here, and I'm a premium member, so another subscription), AUM, and Gadget 2.

    I want AUM and AudioShare to last for many, many, many years to come and not just become forgotten side projects on the backburner.

    Edit: Then again, the subscription could be optional for those who don't wish to subscribe and not lock anything behind a wall.

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  • @Svetlovska said:
    Much as I love AUM - no. I will never, ever pay a subscription for anything. IAP, yes. Subs, never. Not even AUM.

    Yeah, this...

  • I’m not against subscriptions necessarily but I would rather pay per upgrade like several devs have done ie: @elf_audio and know I am getting something that I can use rather than a subscription which may end up getting me nothing. If audio tracks on NS2 were an IAP I’d be all over it and would be willing to pay a significant price because I know that, coming from Blip, it would be outstanding.

    Yes I am a broken record about this. 😆

  • @anickt said:
    I’m not against subscriptions necessarily but I would rather pay per upgrade like several devs have done ie: @elf_audio and know I am getting something that I can use rather than a subscription which may end up getting me nothing. If audio tracks on NS2 were an IAP I’d be all over it and would be willing to pay a significant price because I know that, coming from Blip, it would be outstanding.

    Yes I am a broken record about this. 😆

    What if it turned out that the economics were such that without some variant of subscription 60% of your favorite developers would have to stop developing software for iOS?

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @anickt said:
    I’m not against subscriptions necessarily but I would rather pay per upgrade like several devs have done ie: @elf_audio and know I am getting something that I can use rather than a subscription which may end up getting me nothing. If audio tracks on NS2 were an IAP I’d be all over it and would be willing to pay a significant price because I know that, coming from Blip, it would be outstanding.

    Yes I am a broken record about this. 😆

    What if it turned out that the economics were such that without some variant of subscription 60% of your favorite developers would have to stop developing software for iOS?

    “The party is over. And all the luck.”

    (That’s a Fila Brazilia sample. Not sure what from).

  • @Paulo164 said:
    To show AUM “real” love (sorry 😉), let’s try answering this question : if AUM had to go the subscription way - let’s say for sustainability reasons - would you still use it and how much would you accept to pay ?
    Haha, sorry but I was just wondering this...

    No and I dislike subscription in general.

    However I would be happy to pay a one off sum to ensure development.

    I would also pay for an upgrade that does what I use a Mozaic script for… Allow a set recording length.

  • Further to the above: IAP, repurchase of a Mk 2, the Loopy Pro/Wotja ‘this version forever, the next version a repurchase’ - all yes. But subscription?: never, ever, whatsoever.

  • Still with you there, Svetlovska...

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @anickt said:
    I’m not against subscriptions necessarily but I would rather pay per upgrade like several devs have done ie: @elf_audio and know I am getting something that I can use rather than a subscription which may end up getting me nothing. If audio tracks on NS2 were an IAP I’d be all over it and would be willing to pay a significant price because I know that, coming from Blip, it would be outstanding.

    Yes I am a broken record about this. 😆

    What if it turned out that the economics were such that without some variant of subscription 60% of your favorite developers would have to stop developing software for iOS?

    Let’s put it this way - a subscription would have to mean that something new and useful would be offered on a regular basis which is what most subscriptions are.

    In the old days of magazines (remember those?) for your subscription money you would get a new issue (usually monthly), it would be delivered sooner than it was on the newsstand and would typically be discounted from single issue pricing. There might also be subscriber only offers.

    For apps it’s on the devs to figure out what is viable for them. Either method (IAP or subscription) could work. Without specifics, it’s all “what if” which eventually just becomes pointless.

  • @anickt : I agree, without specifics it’s pointless…which was my point. Some people generically reject any notion of any subscription model without knowing any specifics at all. And sometimes do it in such a way that indicates they don’t have a sense of how little the return on invested time can be.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    @anickt : I agree, without specifics it’s pointless…which was my point. Some people generically reject any notion of any subscription model without knowing any specifics at all. And sometimes do it in such a way that indicates they don’t have a sense of how little the return on invested time can be.

    😎👍🏼 and to get back to the OP, @j_liljedahl is working on updates to his apps and I will gladly pay whatever it takes for them (within reason 😆).

    AUM and AudioShare are indispensable for me and are probably the apps I have spent the most time with overall in my history with iOS music making.

  • edited July 2022

    @tja said:

    @Paulo164 said:
    To show AUM “real” love (sorry 😉), let’s try answering this question : if AUM had to go the subscription way - let’s say for sustainability reasons - would you still use it and how much would you accept to pay ?
    Haha, sorry but I was just wondering this...

    No.

    But something like the WorkingCopy, Wotja, Loopy Pro payments, yes!

    whoa, slow up on that kinda talk...lol. You can purchase the rest of the Kymatica apps, all great.

    Didn’t they add a tip feature in one of the recent updates?

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